Analogue-sequencer

>     Posted by: "Miguel Mendoza"
>
> Hello, I use to work with a  midifed Roland TB 303 Devil Fish and the P3
> works perfect with ties, accents, etc... Just like the internal TB seq. but
> with more options. Did you try to configure the TeeBee with the autoglide
> option? I think that the solution is more into de TeeBee than in the P3



yes, the glide function can be turned on or off by sending cc0, ive got that
setup as an aux.


    Posted by: "sad1robot@aol.com"
>
> ive have a   teebee mk 3    .   .w/ the ring mod osc. and   works nicely
> w/
> the p3.
> my only complaint about the teebee ( comparing it with the two other
> tb-303s
>   i own which both have their own sound )   is the lack of an Accent Level
> control.  It slides   and   accents   as it should. .   but that hard
> bumping accent   that i love in the tb-303 is just not there .   the
> resonance   is
> also lacking   on the   teebee.   its   slope   is really short   , almost
> on
> or off, and the sound disappears at high settings.


the lack of hard accent is part of my problem. i have to set my velocity
settings very low to be useable (<30) otherwise theres a very audible click
on attack.


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> yes, the glide function can be turned on or off by sending 
> cc0, ive got that
> setup as an aux.

In the original 303, when any note is slid into another, the gate stays
high.
So it makes sense for a 303 clone to auto-slide on overlapped notes, and it
also makes it simpler to program - TIE means stretch the same note, or slide
between two different ones...
Does the Syntecno insist on a CC for slide switching ?
Aside from anything else, auto-slide also makes it much easier to play in
303 patterns with slides from a keyboard.
 
> the lack of hard accent is part of my problem. i have to set 
> my velocity
> settings very low to be useable (<30) otherwise theres a very 
> audible click
> on attack.

Maybe that's something that could be fixed with a circuit modification ?

I use P3 with my real 303, which is fitted with a MIDIBass 303 interface:
http://www.colinfraser.com/mb303/index.html

When I capture 303 patterns into P3 and replay them, it is impossible to
hear the difference between the 303 internal sequencer and P3.

The 303 sequencer is very limited - every gate length is fixed at half a
beat unless stretched with a tie or slide, and the timing is very rigid.
IMHO, what makes a 303 pattern groovy is the right combination of accents
and slides.
If you take a straight repetitive pattern of notes, adding accents lets you
super-impose another rhythm on top.
Since a 303 slide starts on the beat and the note doesn't reach its final
pitch until some way through the beat, this has the effect of making slid
steps sound like they are laid back from the beat - giving you grooviness
even within a rigid gate timing.

I have a bank with a load of 303 patterns I captured into P3 from my 303.
If I can find some time, I'll post a sysex dump of this bank, along with
some mp3s of the 303 playing the patterns back.
That should at least convince you that P3 can groove just as well as a 303,
assuming you have the right control behaviour over the 303 synth... 

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Hmm.. my Mark III works fine with overlapping notes, but I think you 
need to get the OS upgrade ROM from Syntecno.  They still
had a couple left a couple of years ago...


Dave

Colin Fraser wrote:

>
>
>
> Does the Syntecno insist on a CC for slide switching ?
> Aside from anything else, auto-slide also makes it much easier to play in
> 303 patterns with slides from a keyboard.
>