Analogue-sequencer

can't find it, or maybe I imagined it, but I thought there was a document somewhere explaining how to set up the auxes using a macro function. if anyone knows where it is or can write a quick explanation, put it here where folks can find it by the thread title. I will c&p it into the files section later.

was there ever a proper manual for the v4 s/w or are our authors too busy with the cirklon now? :-)

duncan.

I think it's function + aux a/b/c/d (you just get to skip going to the aux
page on the top row.
It's been awhile since I've sat with my P3, getting into the elektrons
pretty hard...

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:21 PM, duncan <ferrograph@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> can't find it, or maybe I imagined it, but I thought there was a document
> somewhere explaining how to set up the auxes using a macro function. if
> anyone knows where it is or can write a quick explanation, put it here where
> folks can find it by the thread title. I will c&p it into the files section
> later.
>
> was there ever a proper manual for the v4 s/w or are our authors too busy
> with the cirklon now? :-)
>
> duncan.
>
>  
>


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> can't find it, or maybe I imagined it, but I thought there 
> was a document somewhere explaining how to set up the auxes 
> using a macro function.

The aux macros are accessed in edit mode with FUNC + UPPER ROW.
You scroll through the preset list with the DATA knob.
I did plan at one time to add some user slots for macros, where you would be
able to save the current aux settings from the pattern for later recall.

> was there ever a proper manual for the v4 s/w or are our 
> authors too busy with the cirklon now? :-)

Too busy with Cirklon for the foreseeable future.
Not too sure I can remember how to use v4 well enough to write a manual for
it either.
There is a later P3 OS, v4.5, which handles patterns differently, and I've
used that for much longer than v4.
I should post that one up. 

Cheers,
Colin

>>The aux macros are accessed in edit mode with FUNC + UPPER ROW.
You scroll through the preset list with the DATA knob.<<

ta.

>>I did plan at one time to add some user slots for macros, where you would be able to save the current aux settings from the pattern for later recall.<<

damn. presumably no plans to do that now?


>>There is a later P3 OS, v4.5, which handles patterns differently, and I've used that for much longer than v4.
I should post that one up.<<

is right! what's different? does it use the mem-x? 

d.

>>I think it's function + aux a/b/c/d (you just get to skip going to the aux page on the top row.<<

no, that's just the aux set-up. colin made some macros (shortcuts) to set up all four at once, e.g. for polyphonic recordings you'd have all four set up with aux notes. 
anyway, it's "func" + "upper mode" he tells me, & scroll through the options. going to check those now, see if it's what I wanted.. :-)

d.

> >>I did plan at one time to add some user slots for macros, where you 
> >>would be able to save the current aux settings from the pattern for 
> >>later recall.<<
> 
> damn. presumably no plans to do that now?

Not unless I win the Euromillions.
Then I'll have one of my dev team do it for you ;-)
When I looked into what would be needed, I thought it would really some way
to identify the stored aux setups, otherwise you'd have to remember what
each user preset was. That was going to be a lot of new string handling and
so on.

> >>There is a later P3 OS, v4.5, which handles patterns 
> differently, and I've used that for much longer than v4.
> I should post that one up.<<
> 
> is right! what's different? does it use the mem-x? 

It's very similar to v4 in all but pattern assignment.
In v4, each pattern 'belongs' to a specific part and track.
8 parts x 8 tracks gives you 64 patterns per bank.
You can assign a pattern to any other location by ghosting it there.
But you can't un-assign a pattern from its original location without putting
it somewhere else, or deleting it.

v4.5 has a pool of 64 patterns per bank.
Patterns can be used in any part/track location, but they don't belong to
any specific one.
There is no concept of a 'ghost'. If you want to use a pattern in more than
one location, you just select the same pattern from the pool in more than
one location. If you deselect a pattern from the only place it was used, the
pattern still exists in the pool until you explicitly delete it.
When you edit a pattern, you get a choice of 'save orig', or 'save new'.
That either saves the changes to the original pattern, or creates a new
pattern in the pool and updates the edited track to point to the new
pattern.
Any other selections of the original pattern will still use the original
pattern.

I found it conceptually a lot easier than the whole ghosting thing.
It also works with the v4.0 sysex dumps, though you'll end up with pattern
numbers that hint at the part/track locations the patterns came from.
There is also limited support in P3 Tools 2 for a dump from v4.5, since P3
Tools wasn't design with unallocated patterns in mind.
Anyway, I've posted it up to the download page at sequentix.com
Make a backup of your P3 data before installing it !

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:29, Colin f wrote:

> There is a later P3 OS, v4.5, which handles patterns differently, and I've
> used that for much longer than v4.
> I should post that one up. 

Ja pls. Whether or not I order a Cirk, I'd like to keep the P3 up-to-date.

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