Analogue systems

I think Bob limited it to this number of sockets to assure there wouldn't be
any current issues with multiple modules equipped with displays, which eat
up a ton of juice through no fault of A. Systems!


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> 
> hello peter,
> 
> yes, i agree with you in the most points.
> what i was trying to say is that it is not ok
> to have only 10 connectors in a frame as big as the rs15.
> it would be ok if the dual or triple cables were free,
> just like the standard power cables, but it doesn't look
> like that. i can't think of a system with only 10 modules
> in a rs15 frame, so you don't have a clue, you have to use
> those special cables. i don't care about the money, it is
> more a question of principle. maybe i'm just too german?
> 
> another thing, the dip sockets are cheap, yes. but there
> are other sockets and connectors available which are
> much more rigid and they are not much more expensive.
> from my point of view it doesn't make sense to save money on
> the connectors. would anybody care if the modules would cost
> 1 pound more than they do? probably not, but it bothers
> me when i have to pay 20 euro for a cable with cheap dip sockets,
> just to be able to connect another module.
> 
> anyway, yesterday i felt really pissed about that, today
> i feel much more relaxed. if i have to pay for the cables,
> then this will be ok, but i don't think that this will make
> me a happy customer.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Peter Grenader <peter@b...>
> wrote:
>> Bob really raised the pole for everyone with the new PSU.  Its much
> better
>> mechanically and electrically, but let me just comment briefly on
> the socket
>> selection.
>> 
>> While some of this is my own conclusion, I think it's fair to say
> that
>> Analogue Systems, by virtue of coming after Doepfer, was conforming
> to the
>> Doepfer standards for power requirements, size, jack type, etc.
> This was a
>> supremely intuitive decision on Bob's part as it created a cross
> platform
>> which has unquestionably helped his sales.  A brilliant move.
>> 
>> But - for obvious reasons, he wanted to avoid using other companies
> PSUs if
>> at all possible.  It only makes sense.  You can easily guarantee a
> product's
>> performance if you can control it's operation.  Once a second party
> product
>> is introduced, you then lose a certain amount of control and
> therefore, you
>> can no longer unquestionably guarantee the operation.  I'm not
> speaking
>> about the user side of the faceplate here, that's 200% compatible -
> I'm
>> speaking about it's supply voltage source.  I am also not dissing
> the
>> Doepfer PSU.  It's a fine unit, it's just not made by Analogue
> Systems and
>> from a manufacturers standpoint, more of a risk.  The very same
> holds true
>> with Doepfer modules powered by A. Sys supplies.  It will work
> fine - but
>> it's not a controlled situation, that's all.
>> 
>> So how to you design in exclusivity?  You use another connector
> scheme and
>> that's what Bob did.  Analogue Solutions was willing to take that
> risk and
>> their modules have accommodations for both the Doepfer inline and
> the A.
>> Sys's DIP connections.
>> 
>> Bob's decision to go with DIP connectors make sense as they are a
> cost
>> effective functional alternative to the Doepfer scheme.  You just
> have to be
>> careful when connecting them, that's all.  Listen, I've got hands
> as large
>> as cricket mallets.  It takes a bit of getting used to, but you do
> and it
>> gets easy at that point. One thing I've noticed that really makes
>> connections easier is if you remove either the top or bottom panel
> from the
>> rack when making multiple connections (like when setting up your
> system
>> initially), because it allows you to view things from a shallower
> angle so
>> you're not covering up the area you need to see with your hand.
>> 
>> With Bob's new power distribution panel things are much better off
> because
>> he included Doepfer style terminations along with his DIP sockets
> on his new
>> motherboard.   He also fused the secondary side of the syste (not
> just the
>> AC mains, but the DC voltsges as well) so even if ther is a
> problem, the
>> chance of it doing little more than blowing a fuse is distant.
>> 
>> just my conjecture here...
>> 
>> - P
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