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Re: BCF2000 simulaneuos multiple button press encoding with Live in Mackie mode.

2008-09-24 by bty677917

Thanks for the emulation info, Mago, very helpful.  

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Alejandro Frenkel" 
<frenkel_alejandro@...> wrote:
>
> Dear David,
> Hi, I'm not sure I correctly understand your question. I'll try to
> help but keep in mind I'm not an expert, I made the BCF preset 
mostly
> by copying Kip's great BCR preset, and added a way to "combine" two
> commands in one button.
> 
> As far as I know, the Shift, Option, Control and Alt functions of 
the
> Mackie controler in Live are "activated" by note-on commands, and
> "deactivated" by note-off commands. For example: PlayClip is a Ch1 
F7
> note-on / off on in "live - mackie language". However, if you first
> send an Option command (Ch 1 B4 note-on in live-mackie language), 
then
> send Play Clip (Ch 1 F7 note-on/off) while B4 is still "on", and 
then
> send a B4 note-off, Live interpret this PlayClip command as a 
StopClip
> command. 
> 
> And I found a way to send two different Note-on commands at the 
press
> of a button, and two note-off commands when this same button is
> released. In fact the preset sends notes with velocity 127 when the
> button is pressed, and the same notes with velocity 0 when 
released. I
> really don't know exactly how I did it, just played with the "custom
> output" options in BCEditor and found a way that worked.
> 
> You could use this technique to group more than two commands in any
> button. Just copy the "Opt/Ctrl" button in my preset, and change the
> values 71 & 72 (or $47 and $48 in hex, which are the note numbers) 
to
> whatever note you want, and add another "triplet" (144+71+val, or
> $90+$47+val in hex) for each additional note you want to "group" in
> this button...
> 
> Here a great link with the function of eaach note in "live mackie
> language":
> http://shoshin.110mb.com/genmce/mackie%20commands/Mackie%
20commands.htm
> 
> Hope this helps, 
> Regards,
> Mago  
>  
>   
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "bty677917" <spaldy@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> > 
> > I've customised a BCF2000 b-control mode preset emulating Mackie 
> > control mode which I found in the group which I use with Ableton 
Live 
> > in Mackie mode.  I'm trying to understand how multiple button 
> > presses, i.e. shift+button, are supported by the Live 
> > implementation.  
> > 
> > Sniffing the BCF in Mackie mode I can see firmware handles shift 
key 
> > modifications of target midi note values, but in b-control mode I 
> > also see note on sequences that perform different functions on 
the 
> > target button, e.g. using the EXIT button to modify the function 
of 
> > teh STORE button defined in the preset as starting (STORE) or 
> > stopping (EXIT+STORE) clip playing.
> > 
> > The preset I'm playing wiht is Mago's MCE.  I'd like to squeeze 
> > another couple of multi-functions out of a couple of controls, if 
> > possible.
> > 
> > Any help much appreciated.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > David
> >
>

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