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Re: Absolute vs. Relative modes? reaper fader jumps.

2008-12-28 by k5kip_1999

Always restart reaper when you try a new preset on bcr2k.


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
>
> You can try the Live preset in Reaper for basic controls.
> Faders, mutes, ch. selects, solos, arms, transports, jog and pans, <
> bank > I think are all that work. Markers work, however they are not
> where Reapers expects them... this is after all for Live.
> 
> So what do you get for your trouble of downloading a Live preset and
> sending the sysex for control of reaper?
> Banks!
> 8 faders + 8 pans + 8 mutes + 8 solos + 8 arms + 8 Ch. selects = 1
> bank. If you only have 8 tracks ... well than you only have 1 bank.
> If you have 24 tracks... by using the < bank > button, you can bank
> down to control 9-16 and then 17-24 ... etc to however many tracks you
> have!
> I just tested this and there is no fader jumps.
> 
> All are mapped, this won't use all of the bcr... so you could set it
> up to do other things at the same time.
> the F1-F8 keys have not been mapped on the preset, I should do that... 
> 
> You set up Reaper control surface to be mackie.
> Also, set up input from bcr2000 and output back to bcr2000.
> Try an older version of the preset,  like 4.1 or 4.0
> You can try Art Hunkins preset as well.
> Just remember you won't get all of the entire mackie protocol.
> Try it as an experiment!
> 
> 
> Kip
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "hooeygoo" <SMG_Music@> wrote:
> > > When I power up the BCR all rotary settings are at 0, as
expected, so
> > > the first time I use one to control, say, a volume fader in my
DAW, it
> > > jumps to 0, then follows the rotary.
> > 
> > > I thought maybe I could avoid this by using Relative rather than
> > > Absolute mode, but maybe not, or I'm doing it wrong. REAPER, for
> > > example, has Absolute and 3 Relative modes to choose from, but
none of
> > > the combinations of BCR/REAPER settings I've tried work. The control
> > > will just move slightly and erratically, sometimes in the opposite
> > > direction of the encoder.
> > > 
> > > I know I can use the Exit button to disable the encoder temporarily
> > > while I match the values, but should I be able to use Relative mode
> > > instead? And if not, can someone explain what this mode is used for?
> > 
> > Concerning "Relative": I'm unsure whether it can do what you want,
> > since this depends on the receiving device's capabilities. In any case
> > there's some (admittedly rather technical) explanation of the BCR's
> > Relative modes in "BC MIDI Implementation.pdf" (e.g. section 14.3,
> p. 77).
> > 
> > Concerning the BCR's power-up values: it IS possible to set them to
> > other values than 0. In BC Manager (at least if the DPI setting is 96
> > ;)), you can go to the "General" tab of the encoder dialog box, then
> > set "Value" (under "Default") to a value you like, and upload this
> > setting (within a memory preset) to the BCR. This value will then be
> > selected the next time you switch on the BCR and then select that
> > memory preset, as indicated by the encoder's dot.
> > 
> > However, in your case it would of course be best to have your DAW send
> > its settings to the BCR when you select the preset on the BCR, so that
> > the BCR's encoders are immediately updated to the DAW's settings. It
> > depends on your DAW whether this is possible; in any case it is
> > possible to have the BCR send any "learn" request whenever a
> > particular memory preset is selected: in BC Manager, enable "Request"
> > on the "Settings" tab in the preset dialog box, and put the proper
> > request on the "Learn output" tab.
> > 
> > Alternatively, you can enable "Snapshot" on the preset's "Settings"
> > tab: then the BCR sends a memory preset's button and encoder values to
> > the DAW whenever that preset gets selected. Of course this still leads
> > to your deplored jumps, but at least you don't have to turn your
> > encoders manually to update your DAW's settings.
> > 
> > Hope this helps a bit,
> > Mark.
> >
>

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