Far out what an incredible response!
Thank you Mark. I will see if i can get mixer track 9 to accept midi channel 2.
Steve
On 1/20/09, Mark van den Berg <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, steve <stevesblues@...> wrote:
>> I recall reading of setups with something like a multi-channel mixer
>> template where the user presses the preset button to bank up through
>> channels 1-8, 9-16 etc
>>
>> And rather than the preset buttons acting as generic remote banks the
>> description sounded a lot like the setup has programmed preset1,
> rotary
>> 1 to manipulate channel 1 in the vst mixer and preset2, rotary 1
>> manipulates channel 9 in the mixer etc
>>
>> Is there a method of programming 1 rotary in a preset to affect a
>> particular mixer channel only?
>
> This mainly depends on the capabilities of the individual mixer.
>
> The BCF/BCR's 32 presets are completely independent: so they don't
> function as "generic remote banks" (unless you manually set up the
> individual presets that way of course). So each element
> (button/encoder/fader) in any preset can be set up independently,
> exactly as you like. What's more, the BCF/BCR remembers the momentary
> values (positions) of ALL the elements of the 32 presets ACROSS preset
> changes.
> So in effect the BCF/BCR can be seen as one big, virtual preset, in
> which there are 32 "copies" of each button, encoder and fader, each
> copy having completely independent settings. Pressing the PRESET
> buttons ("<" and ">") merely switches the "focus" of the BCF/BCR to a
> particular preset from among the 32.
>
> However, when it comes to communicating with a mixer device, there are
> some restrictions, caused by the MIDI protocol itself.
>
> For instance, a CC (Control Change) message (which is the most common
> type of message used to control MIDI devices (including mixers))
> includes 3 numbers:
>
> 1. The MIDI channel: a number from 1 to 16 (internally 0-15).
> 2. A Controller: a number from 0-127.
> 3. The actual (momentary) value (position) of the element: also a
> number from 0-127.
>
> Obviously the sender (the BCF/BCR) and the receiving mixer must
> understand each other. That is: a particular mixer control (volume,
> pan etc.) must be associated with the exact MIDI channel and
> Controller sent by a particular element (in a particular preset) on
> the BCF/BCR.
>
> So it depends almost completely on the capabilities of the MIXER (not
> the BCF/BCR) what is possible: which MIDI channels and Controller
> numbers can be associated with which mixer controls.
>
> I hope this answers your question.
>
> Actually, there are other ways to control multi-channel mixers:
> E.g. Propellerhead Reason takes full control of the BCF/BCR, using
> only ONE preset (the "temporary" preset or - in BC Manager's parlance
> - "preset 0"): when you press the BCF/BCR's PRESET buttons, you don't
> actually change presets (or even the way the temporary preset is set
> up): instead, a preset button sends a particular MIDI message to
> Reason, which then knows that you want to switch from one group of
> mixer channels to another, and responds accordingly, namely by
> updating the BCF/BCR's elements (via CC messages) to the new group's
> mixer channel values as maintained by Reason itself.
>
> Mark.
>
>
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Re: Generic remote alternative
2009-01-19 by steve
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