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Re: Increment a Program Change with a button??

2009-10-18 by rpcfender

Hi Denis

> Many times I dreamed my BC changing the parameters pages of  more complex plugins , that is only changeable by mouse , 
> 
> Or if I move a control on BCR , the plugin parameter is automatically selected , and highlighted on the gui for instance .
> 
> I made a nice generic remote for QuadFrohmage filter bank , but at the end  parameters needed to be mouse-touched on the gui , in order I could see reflected the performance on the osciloscope , 

Midi messages are passe to VST stuff by the host (in your case Cubase)
What you are describing is perfectly possible in Sonar, but as I don't use Cubase I am not sure.

> if it is posible to solve such problem with sysex I would go deeper 
> 
> At what extend sysex is usefull to manage BC x plugins connections ? 
Sysex was set up by the synth  manufactures so there would be a way to extend what Midi could do without having to talk to other manufactures about what new product they were developing. So essentially they could dream up any kind of synth and still be able to control it externally.

The VST standard doesn't know anything about sysex, but what a host does with a sysex message is up to it. So a host could take a sysex message and then change a parameter of the VST machine, but there is no need for this. It can much more easily use CC. So that is what they do.

> And my ultimate desire is a transparent GUI  on Cubase ( a exact BCR2000 drawing )  , that showed me all parameters mapped on generic remote devices !!!  I think that shoud be the cherry ont the pie ...

For VST control you really only need the BC to have a different CC (all on the same channel) for all its controlls. 
You could set the min and max values and even use a button to increment values.
On the VST device set up the mapping - this should only have to be done once and the host should remember.

On Sonar you can map a control and have it stay mapped even if you shift the focus to another VST or area. 
Normally though, each VST is mapped and the BC controls change their function depending on what VST is in focus (selected)

Print the VST screen and write the BC control numbers until you get use to it.
Try to map the same controls to similar functions rather than to the position on the screen.
For example the left column of 3 encoders are always Filter cutoff, filter resonance and master Volume.

Setting this up is the recording engineer's version of scales. Boring while you are doing it but you will able to move fast when you are done.


Royce

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