Can you be more specific about the range problem?
You say 164 range. MOPHO manual lists the following NRPNs (see table below)
For example, if you put midi-ox on the output what does it show?
Can you configure the BCR/F to do the same?
I dont have a mopho, but am interested in getting one. The cheaper "no keyboard" version would be a plus if it works with BCR.
From what I see, the NRPNs look reasonable ... you would expect this from Dave Smith ... he invented the standard.
The only thing I can think is strictly if the NRPN range (not value) is 0 ... 127 the official way is to send the MSB. not the LSB as you might expect.
I think this is achieved with the 7 bit NRPN setting rather than the 14.
If they use (like Alesis) the LSB ... you can simply use the 14 bit on 0...127 from the panel, or the BCManager is such an exceptional piece of software -- you can specify almost any bit range in there.
So the key I guess is ... if you modify the knob that controls this output on the Mopho ... if it sends the data "out" to midi out ... if you can see what midi ox says and post it, the chances are it can be done with a BCR/F.
Regards
Steve H
Global Parameter Data
The following table shows the Global data that is sent and received on global
parameter dumps, and the corresponding NRPN number when sent/received
individually.
Param NRP
N
Range Description
0 384 0 -24 Master Transpose; 0 = -12 semitones (1 octave), 12
= 0 (no transpose), and 24 = +12 semitones.
1 385 0- 100 ;Master Fine Tune; 0 = -50 cents, 50 = 0 (centered),
100 = + 50 cents
2 386 0 - 16 MIDI Channel; if = 0, data received on all MIDI
channels. Otherwise = channel number 1 16.
3 388 0 - 3 MIDI clock select
0 Use Internal clock, don't send MIDI clock
1 Use Internal clock, send MIDI clock
2 Use MIDI clock In
3 Use MIDI clock In, and retransmit MIDI clock out
4 390 0 - 2 Parameter Send:
0 NRPN
1 CC
2 Off
5 391 0 - 3 Parameter Receive:
0 All
1 NRPN only
2 CC only
3 Off
6 394 0 - 1 MIDI Controller Send/Receive Off/On
7 395 0 - 1 MIDI Sysex Send/Receive Off/On 35
8 405 0 - 5 Audio Out:
0 Stereo
1 Mono
9 406 0 - 1 MIDI Out Select:
0 MIDI Out ;
1 MIDI Thru
Program Parameter Data
The following table lists Mopho's voice parameters. The parameter number in
the program and edit buffer dumps are different than the NRPN numbers as
seen; this was to maintain NRPN compatibility with the Prophet '08 as much as
possible.
Param NRPN Range Description
0 0 0 - 120 Oscillator 1 Frequency, 0 120 in semitones (10
octave range)
1 1 0 - 100 Oscillator 1 Fine Tune; 0 = -50 cents, 50 = 0
(centered), 100 = + 50 cents
2 2 0-103 Oscillator 1 Shape
0 Oscillator Off
1 Sawtooth
2 Triangle ;
3 Sawtooth/triangle mix
4 103 Pulse Wave, Pulse width 0 99
3 3 0 - 127 Oscillator 1 Glide
4 4 0 - 1 Oscillator 1 Keyboard Off/On
5 114 0-127 Sub Oscillator 1 Level
6 5 0 - 120 Oscillator 2 Frequency, 0 120 in semitones (10
octave range)
7 6 0 - 100 Oscillator 2 Fine Tune; 0 = -50 cents, 50 = 0
(centered), 100 = + 50 cents
8 7 0-103 Oscillator 2 Shape ;
0 Oscillator Off
Sawtooth
Triangle
Sawtooth/triangle mix
4 103 Pulse Wave, Pulse width 0 99
9 8 0 - 127 Oscillator 2 Glide
10 9 0 - 1 Oscillator 2 Keyboard Off/On
11 115 0 - 127 Sub Oscillator 2 Level
12 10 0 - 1 Sync off/on
13 11 0 - 3 Glide Mode:
0 fixed rate
1 fixed rate auto
2 fixed time
3 fixed time auto
14 12 0 - 5 Oscillator Slop
15 93 0 - 12 Pitch Bend Range 36
16 96 0 - 5 Key Assign Mode:
Low note priority
Low note priority with re-trigger
High note priority
High note priority with re-trigger
Last note hit priority
Last note hit priority with re-trigger
17 13 0 - 127 Oscillator 1 - 2 Mix
18 14 0 - 127 Noise Level
19 116 0 - 127 External Audio Input Level
20 15 0 - 164 Filter Frequency, steps in semitones
21 16 0 - 127 Resonance
22 17 0 - 127 Filter Keyboard Amount
23 18 0 - 127 Filter Audio Modulation
24 19 0 - 1 Filter Poles 0: 2-pole; 1: 4-pole
25 20 0 - 254 Filter Envelope Amount; -127 to +127 ;
26 21 0 - 127 Filter Envelope Velocity Amount ;
27 22 0 - 127 Filter Envelope Delay
28 23 ;0 - 127 Filter Envelope Attack
29 24 0 - 127 Filter Envelope Decay
30 25 0 - 127 Filter Envelope Sustain
31 26 0 - 127 Filter Envelope Release
32 27 0 - 127 VCA Initial Level
33 30 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Amount
34 31 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Velocity Amount
35 32 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Delay ;
36 33 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Attack
37 34 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Decay
38 35 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Sustain
39 36 0 - 127 VCA Envelope Release
40 29 0 - 127 Voice Volume
41 37 0 - 166 LFO 1 Frequency; 0 150 unsynced frequencies
151 Sequence speed divided by 32
152 Sequence speed divided by 16
153 Sequence speed divided by 8
154 Sequence speed divided by 6
155 Sequence speed divided by 4
156 Sequence speed divided by 3
157 Sequence speed divided by 2
158 Sequence speed divided by 1.5
159 One cycle per step
160 Two cycles per three steps
161 Two cycles per step
162 One cycles per three steps
163 Four cycles per step
164 Six cycles per step 37
165 Eight cycles per step
166 Sixteen cycles per step
42 ;38 0 - 4 LFO 1 Shape
0 Triangle
1 Reverse Sawtooth
2 Sawtooth
3 Pulse (square)
4 Random
43 39 0 - 127 LFO 1 Amount
44 40 0 - 46 LFO 1 Mod Destination; See Modulation Destination
list below
45 41 0 - 1 LFO 1 Key Sync Off/On
46 42 0 - 166 LFO 2 Frequency; same as LFO 1 [[ 0 -- 166 is { 0x00 0x00} ... {0x01 0x26} but 14bit NRPN is 0 ... 166 :-)
47 43 0 - 4 LFO 2 Shape; same as LFO 1
48 44 0 - 127 LFO 2 Amount
49 45 0 - 46 LFO 2 Mod Destination; See Modulation Destination
list below
50 46 0 - 1 LFO 2 Key Sync Off/On
51 47 0 - 166 LFO 3 Frequency; same as LFO 1
52 48 0 - 4 LFO 3 Shape; same as LFO 1
53 49 0 - 127 LFO 3 Amount
54 50 0 - 46 LFO 3 Mod Destination; See Modulation Destination
list below
55 51 0 - 1 LFO 3 Key Sync Off/On
56 52 0 - 166 LFO 4 Frequency; same as LFO 1
57 53 0 - 4 LFO 4 Shape; same as LFO 1
58 54 0 - 127 LFO 4 Amount
59 55 0 - 46 LFO 4 Mod Destination; See Modulation Destination
list below
60 56 0 - 1 LFO 4 Key Sync Off/On
61 57 0 - 46 Envelope 3 Mod Destination; See Mod Destination
list below ;
62 58 0 - 254 Envelope 3 Amount; -127 to +127 {{ ohh .. -ve. COULD be tricky. Is on Miniak))
63 59 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Velocity Amount
64 60 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Delay
65 61 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Attack
66 62 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Decay
67 63 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Sustain
68 64 0 - 127 Envelope 3 Release
69 98 0 - 1 Envelope 3 Repeat Off/On
70 65 0 - 22 Mod 1 Source; See Modulation Source list below
71 66 0 - 254 Mod 1 Amount; -127 to +127
72 67 0 - 46 Mod 1 Destination; See Modulation Destination list
below
73 68 0 - 22 Mod 2 Source; See Modulation Source list below
74 69 0 - 254 Mod 2 Amount; -127 to +127 38
75 70 0 - 46 Mod 2 Destination; See Modulation Destination list
below
76 71 0 - 22 ;Mod 3 Source; See Modulation Source list below
77 72 0 - 254 Mod3 Amount; -127 to +127
78 73 0 - 46 ;Mod 3 Destination; See Modulation Destination list
below
79 74 0 - 22 Mod 4 Source; See Modulation Source list below
80 75 0 - 254 Mod 4 Amount; -127 to +127 {{ but if Dave programmed it as 0 ...254 .. genius .. this should be easy right?))
81 76 0 - 46 Mod 4 Destination; See Modulation Destination list
below
82 81 0 - 254 Mod Wheel Amount; -127 to +127
83 82 0 - 43 Mod Wheel Destination; See ModDestination list
below
84 83 0 - 254 Pressure Amount; -127 to +127
85 84 0 - 43 Pressure Destination; See ModDestination list below
86 85 0 - 254 Breath Amount; -127 to +127
87 86 0 - 43 Breath Destination; See ModDestination list below
88 87 0 - 254 Velocity Amount; -127 to +127
89 88 0 - 43 Velocity Destination; See ModDestination list below
90 89 0 - 254 Foot Control Amount; -127 to +127
91 90 0 - 43 Foot Control Destination; See ModDestination list
below
92 111 0 - 120 Push It Switch Note Number
93 112 0 - 127 Push It Switch velocity
94 113 0 - 1 Push It Switch Mode:
0 Normal
1 Toggle ;
2 Audio In
95 91 30 - 250 BPM tempo
96 92 0 - 12 Clock Divide:
Half Note
Quarter Note
Eighth Note
Eighth Note half swing
Eighth Note full swing
Eighth Note triplets
Sixteenth Note
Sixteenth Note half swing
Sixteenth Note full swing
Sixteenth Note triplets
Thirty-second Notes ;
Thirty-second Notes triplets
Sixty-Fourth note triplets 39
97 97 0 - 3 Arpeggiator Mode:
Up
Down
Up/Down
Assign
98 100 0 - 1 Arpeggiator; off/on
99 94 0 - 5 Sequencer Trigger:
Normal
Normal, no reset
No gate
No gate/no reset
key step
Audio In
100 101 0 - 1 Gated Sequencer; off/on
101 77 0 - 46 Sequence 1 Destination; See ModDestination list
below
102 78 0 - 46 Sequence 1 Destination; See ModDestination list
below
103 79 0 - 46 Sequence 1 Destination; See ModDestination list
below
104 80 0 - 46 Sequence 1 Destination; See ModDestination list
below
105 105 0 - 183 Assignable Parameter 1
106 106 0 - 183 Assignable Parameter 1
107 107 0 - 183 Assignable Parameter 1
108 108 0 - 183 Assignable Parameter 1
109
119
Unused
120-135 120-135 0 - 127 Sequence Track1, steps 1 16
0 to 125: Normal sequence step value
126 Reset
127 Rest
136-151 136-151 0 - 126 Sequence Track 2, steps 1 16
0 to 125: Normal sequence step value
126 Reset
152-167 152-167 0 - 126 Sequence Track 3, steps 1 16
0 to 125: Normal sequence step value
126 Reset
168-183 168-183 0 - 126 Sequence Track 4, steps 1 16
0 to 125: Normal sequence step value
126 Reset
184-199 184-199 32 - 127 Name charaters 1 16, in ASCII format
200-255 unused
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> Hi,
> Just joined the group.
> Great to see all of the support and sharing of knowledge.
> I found a template for the BCR2000 and MOPHO, but not the BCF2000.
> Anyone have such a thing kicking around and willing to send me a link?
> I've looked everywhere with no luck.
> I tried setting one up myself and ran into the same NRPN 164 range problem that about a million other people have had.
> Please let me know if anyone here has a lead on this that I could follow up on.
> Thanks very much and have great day.
> Sash.
>