Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "sexontony" <sexontony@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mark and BC Manager users,
> 
> thanks Mark for BC Manager and your efforts, I tried BC Manager 
1.2.2
> and so far it looks very useful.
> 
> Only I had problems sending the preset settings from BC Manager to 
my
> BCR2000 back.
> 
> Could anyone write step by step what I need to do to accomplish this
> transfer? (Sending preset data from BCR2000 to BC Manager works 
nicely,
> after I use Edit-Preset Right keys on the BCR2000.)
> 
> Do I have to press any buttons on my BCR2000 also to receive data 
from
> BC Manager? In another software (bcfredit.exe by birdie) no further 
key
> presses were necessary on the BCR2000.
> 
> What I did was:
> -  start BC Manager
> -  set the correct midi devices for input and output (USB Audio 
Device)
> -  my BCR2000 is in U1 mode
> -  select preset 32 on my BCR2000
> -  select preset 32 on "BC Manager.BCR2000: Presets"-window and 
then in
> this window selecting menu MIDI.Send
> 
> The result is the window "BCR2000: send preset 32" appears with some
> info (Lines to send: 831 (22393 bytes) but the sending process does 
not
> continue, it just remains in this state.
> 
> Do you have any ideas what could be the reason for this behaviour?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Tony
>

Hi Tony.

I have had the same problem as well. Actually, I think it is an USB 
Mode problem.
Now I use my BCR and BC Manager per Midi- in/out. Switch your BCR2000 
into "S4 - Mode". Change the BC Manager-options into Midi - mode (the 
right in/out settings are important)

For that way. You need a Midibox (like a "USB Midi Sport 1x2 - M-
Audio") or you use your gameport with a Midi- in/out adapter.

Now it works perfectly :)

Try it.

Best regrads - Norris from Germany.

Hi Norris, 

thanks for the idea over the normal midi in/out. But if possible I 
would like to use the USB connection to keep the midi in/out of my 
soundcard free for other hardware synthesizers.

I also didn't mention in my previous posting that I am using the BCR 
drivers "BCF_BCR2000-1.1.1.1" and now instead of "USB Audio Device" 
it shows in a "better way" "BCR2000 [01]" but the problem is still 
the same.

Could anyone get the BCR2000 working with BC Manager also via the USB 
interface? If yes, which drivers did you use (in Windows XP) and 
further step by step instructions for BC Manager please?

Maybe its just a question of setting the parameters right in BC 
Manager like in the menu.Options.Midi devices."Timer tab"
-  Resolution (msec) (default: 1)
-  Gauges.Window (csec) (default: 40)
-  Gauges.Update frequency (csec) (default: 10)

If nothing else will work I will try out the Norris-way.

Kind regards,
Tony


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "norris_terrify" <asyncron@...> wrote:

> I have had the same problem as well. Actually, I think it is an 
USB 
> Mode problem.
> Now I use my BCR and BC Manager per Midi- in/out. Switch your 
BCR2000 
> into "S4 - Mode". Change the BC Manager-options into Midi - mode 
(the 

> right in/out settings are important)
> 
> Now it works perfectly :)
> 
> Try it.
> 
> Best regrads - Norris from Germany.

Hi Norris,

I have some good news (at least also for you), updating to the last 
BCR2000 driver "BCFBCR2000v1213" from here: http://www.behringer.com/
_software/BCFBCR2000v1213.zip solved my problem. Now it seems that 
the transfer back to BCR2000 also works nicely.

Kind regards and thanks again to Mark, now I can start testing this 
interesting looking application,
Tony


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "sexontony" <sexontony@...> wrote:

> Could anyone get the BCR2000 working with BC Manager also via the 
USB 
> interface? If yes, which drivers did you use (in Windows XP) and 
> further step by step instructions for BC Manager please?

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "sexontony" <sexontony@...> wrote:
sexontony wrote:
> Do I have to press any buttons on my BCR2000 also to receive data from 
> BC Manager?

No, you don't have to do anything on your BCR, except that you have to 
make sure that it's not in Global Setup mode (in which case it doesn't 
receive ANYTHING).

> What I did was:
> - start BC Manager
> - set the correct midi devices for input and output (USB Audio Device)
> - my BCR2000 is in U1 mode

> - select preset 32 on my BCR2000
This should be unnecessary.

> - select preset 32 on "BC Manager.BCR2000: Presets"-window and then in 
> this window selecting menu MIDI.Send
> 
> The result is the window "BCR2000: send preset 32" appears with some 
> info (Lines to send: 831 (22393 bytes) but the sending process does not 
> continue, it just remains in this state.
> Do you have any ideas what could be the reason for this behaviour?

Well, BC Manager's "send preset"-routine uses a handshaking protocol:
it sends a message, then waits for the BCF/BCR to confirm that
message's reception before sending the next message. But of course
this doesn't tell us what exactly is wrong.

Did you try pressing the "Receive Identity" button? If that also
didn't work, that would be further indication of a basic problem with
the handshake connection.

In view of your later message mentioning the newer USB driver solving 
the problem, it might indeed have been a problem with the older
drivers (Windows' "USB Audio Device", possibly Behringer's own
1.1.1.0/1 as well). I must admit that I've only tested BC Manager with
1.2.1.3 (and never had any problem with it, at least not in this
respect). I'll see what happens when I revert to the other drivers.

By the way, the upcoming BC Manager 1.3 will include an autodetection 
feature, which should facilitate working with any USB driver.

> Maybe its just a question of setting the parameters right in BC
> Manager like in the menu.Options.Midi devices."Timer tab"
> -  Resolution (msec) (default: 1)
> -  Gauges.Window (csec) (default: 40)
> -  Gauges.Update frequency (csec) (default: 10)

The Timer tab has absolutely nothing to do with this problem. (It only 
affects the MIDI meter windows.)

Mark.