Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hi,

I just shot the Mackie control emulation into my BCR2000 (the ableton
live template) with BC manager. Since the store button is used as a
'general'button I can't figure out how to save the preset.

So, how can I save a preset without using the store button on the BCR?

If you just send it to your bcr2000.
It should store as preset#2.
After you send it just move up or down presets with the <> keys and
come back to that preset.
That should be all it takes.
Yes the store button is used in the preset.
You should not need it to store this preset.

I included the store command in the preset and that is will store to
preset #2.

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "yavadeg" <yavadeg@...> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> 
> I just shot the Mackie control emulation into my BCR2000 (the ableton
> live template) with BC manager. Since the store button is used as a
> 'general'button I can't figure out how to save the preset.
> 
> So, how can I save a preset without using the store button on the BCR?
>

Thanks Kip,

I think I went wrong by having your template in preset row 0 in BC
manager. I think that it sends the preset to the temp preset. I copied
it to row 1 and now it is being saved to preset 1.

I converted your sysex to text but can't see a  store command.
Where did you put it? Might be usefull if I want to make my own presets.

BTW thanks for the preset!!

Yaïre

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:

>
> If you just send it to your bcr2000.
> It should store as preset#2.
> After you send it just move up or down presets with the <> keys and
> come back to that preset.
> That should be all it takes.
> Yes the store button is used in the preset.
> You should not need it to store this preset.
> 
> I included the store command in the preset and that is will store to
> preset #2.
> 
> Kip
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "yavadeg" <yavadeg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just shot the Mackie control emulation into my BCR2000 (the ableton
> > live template) with BC manager. Since the store button is used as a
> > 'general'button I can't figure out how to save the preset.
> > 
> > So, how can I save a preset without using the store button on the BCR?
> >
>

Mark correct me if I am wrong here.

yavadeg,

If you use bcmanager, you won't have to use any store commands in the
preset.  As long as your preset is not on 0, then it will be stored in
the location you put it.
Now if you want to make your own presets to distribute to others - 
there are a couple of things to consider.
1. If they are using bcmanager, they won't need the store commands either.
2. If they are on a mac, bcmanager won't work for those people so they
will probably be doing a sysex dump back to the bcr2000.
It that case you can use bcmanager's bcl editor to add the store
command at the 2nd to last command.
So add $store 02 (to store to preset #2, 
followed by $end.

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "yavadeg" <yavadeg@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kip,
> 
> I think I went wrong by having your template in preset row 0 in BC
> manager. I think that it sends the preset to the temp preset. I copied
> it to row 1 and now it is being saved to preset 1.
> 
> I converted your sysex to text but can't see a  store command.
> Where did you put it? Might be usefull if I want to make my own presets.
> 
> BTW thanks for the preset!!
> 
> Ya�re
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> >
> > If you just send it to your bcr2000.
> > It should store as preset#2.
> > After you send it just move up or down presets with the <> keys and
> > come back to that preset.
> > That should be all it takes.
> > Yes the store button is used in the preset.
> > You should not need it to store this preset.
> > 
> > I included the store command in the preset and that is will store to
> > preset #2.
> > 
> > Kip
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "yavadeg" <yavadeg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I just shot the Mackie control emulation into my BCR2000 (the
ableton
> > > live template) with BC manager. Since the store button is used as a
> > > 'general'button I can't figure out how to save the preset.
> > > 
> > > So, how can I save a preset without using the store button on
the BCR?

> > >
> >
>

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
k5kip_1999 wrote:
> Mark correct me if I am wrong here.

Your wish is my command...

> if you want to make your own presets to distribute to others - 
> there are a couple of things to consider.
> 2. If they are on a mac, bcmanager won't work for those people so they
> will probably be doing a sysex dump back to the bcr2000.
> It that case you can use bcmanager's bcl editor to add the store
> command at the 2nd to last command.
> So add $store 02 (to store to preset #2, 
> followed by $end.

Of course BC Manager's BCL editor does work in the way you describe.
However, there is another, probably simpler way, which doesn't involve
the BCL editor at all:

In the "Presets" window, select (highlight) the preset(s) you want to
save, and choose "Export selected preset(s)" from the "File" pulldown
menu. In the dialog box you can then select the output file type (syx,
txt or bc2) via the "Save as type" box.

The saved file will contain all the presets' respective "$store"
commands. However, if preset 0 (the temporary preset) is among the
selected presets, preset 0 will be saved LAST, and will NOT be
followed by a $store command. This protocol is similar to what happens
when you send a bunch of presets to a BCF or BCR: the BCF and BCR use
the temporary preset as a gateway to any memory presets. So formally
ANY preset definition concerns the TEMPORARY preset, and is only
COPIED to a memory preset the moment a $store command is encountered.

Mark.

Yes - I think that was something I had even asked for, wasn't it?
If it wasn't me I had thought about it.



Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:

>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> k5kip_1999 wrote:
> > Mark correct me if I am wrong here.
> 
> Your wish is my command...
> 
> > if you want to make your own presets to distribute to others - 
> > there are a couple of things to consider.
> > 2. If they are on a mac, bcmanager won't work for those people so they
> > will probably be doing a sysex dump back to the bcr2000.
> > It that case you can use bcmanager's bcl editor to add the store
> > command at the 2nd to last command.
> > So add $store 02 (to store to preset #2, 
> > followed by $end.
> 
> Of course BC Manager's BCL editor does work in the way you describe.
> However, there is another, probably simpler way, which doesn't involve
> the BCL editor at all:
> 
> In the "Presets" window, select (highlight) the preset(s) you want to
> save, and choose "Export selected preset(s)" from the "File" pulldown
> menu. In the dialog box you can then select the output file type (syx,
> txt or bc2) via the "Save as type" box.
> 
> The saved file will contain all the presets' respective "$store"
> commands. However, if preset 0 (the temporary preset) is among the
> selected presets, preset 0 will be saved LAST, and will NOT be
> followed by a $store command. This protocol is similar to what happens
> when you send a bunch of presets to a BCF or BCR: the BCF and BCR use
> the temporary preset as a gateway to any memory presets. So formally
> ANY preset definition concerns the TEMPORARY preset, and is only
> COPIED to a memory preset the moment a $store command is encountered.
> 
> Mark.
>