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Never lend midi gear :(

Never lend midi gear :(

2010-09-13 by montessa@y7mail.com

Hi all . 
I have joined in the hope of resurrecting my bcr2000.
I lent it out to a friend who seems to have played with in a bad bad way . 
I thought it was safe as it had a pretty good custom template for ableton which only  required using.
But he  told me that after pressing the wrong buttons 
Things only got worse.
And more worse when he took on his own to download read the manual and try and fix it himself. 
The problem is the unit has been programmed at a 
Manual level where the edit and exit buttons don't function, they do really strange things both of which are undesirable . The encoder group three button scatters the presets .    
And the upper and lower number three push buttons activate all buttons both upper and lower .
Having the edit and exit buttons is annoying as it renders fixing the unit manually impossible. 
I was even considering just buying a new one and writing this unit off.
Anyone here had this problem .
Thanks to any help inadvance bcologiests.
All presets were made with bcedit . 
And two months before I loaned it I replaced two buttons from an old bcd2000  I used to use .
But the unit was fully functional after the transplant.

Re: Never lend midi gear :(

2010-09-13 by pimgraus

Hey,

I had kind of a similar situation a few weeks ago, in my case my cat had walked over my controller many times and managed to destroy my preset.
What saved me was putting a clean .sysex file back using birdy's bcfedit. Available in this yahoo group.

Wishing you all the best.
Pim

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "montessa@..." <montessa@...> wrote:
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> Hi all . 
> I have joined in the hope of resurrecting my bcr2000.
> I lent it out to a friend who seems to have played with in a bad bad way . 
> I thought it was safe as it had a pretty good custom template for ableton which only  required using.
> But he  told me that after pressing the wrong buttons 
> Things only got worse.
> And more worse when he took on his own to download read the manual and try and fix it himself. 
> The problem is the unit has been programmed at a 
> Manual level where the edit and exit buttons don't function, they do really strange things both of which are undesirable . The encoder group three button scatters the presets .    
> And the upper and lower number three push buttons activate all buttons both upper and lower .
> Having the edit and exit buttons is annoying as it renders fixing the unit manually impossible. 
> I was even considering just buying a new one and writing this unit off.
> Anyone here had this problem .
> Thanks to any help inadvance bcologiests.
> All presets were made with bcedit . 
> And two months before I loaned it I replaced two buttons from an old bcd2000  I used to use .
> But the unit was fully functional after the transplant.
>

Re: Never lend midi gear :(

2010-09-13 by montessa@y7mail.com

So that editor is different from bcedit ? . 
I rolled back the firmware then reinstalled the later firmware . And put in the default sysex but it hasn't touched the hardwired buttons only the templates . 
James 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "pimgraus" <pimgraus@...> wrote:
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> Hey,
> 
> I had kind of a similar situation a few weeks ago, in my case my cat had walked over my controller many times and managed to destroy my preset.
> What saved me was putting a clean .sysex file back using birdy's bcfedit. Available in this yahoo group.
> 
> Wishing you all the best.
> Pim
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "montessa@" <montessa@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all . 
> > I have joined in the hope of resurrecting my bcr2000.
> > I lent it out to a friend who seems to have played with in a bad bad way . 
> > I thought it was safe as it had a pretty good custom template for ableton which only  required using.
> > But he  told me that after pressing the wrong buttons 
> > Things only got worse.
> > And more worse when he took on his own to download read the manual and try and fix it himself. 
> > The problem is the unit has been programmed at a 
> > Manual level where the edit and exit buttons don't function, they do really strange things both of which are undesirable . The encoder group three button scatters the presets .    
> > And the upper and lower number three push buttons activate all buttons both upper and lower .
> > Having the edit and exit buttons is annoying as it renders fixing the unit manually impossible. 
> > I was even considering just buying a new one and writing this unit off.
> > Anyone here had this problem .
> > Thanks to any help inadvance bcologiests.
> > All presets were made with bcedit . 
> > And two months before I loaned it I replaced two buttons from an old bcd2000  I used to use .
> > But the unit was fully functional after the transplant.
> >
>

Re: Never lend midi gear :(

2010-09-13 by pimgraus

Yeah, it's a different editor and for me it's the only one that consistently works right. When I used bcedit I never got good results, because it had difficulties writing back a preset to the bcr itself. 
I would recommend you that you use an 'empty' template file, using only cc-values for each button/knob as there are on few on this group. 


So that editor is different from bcedit ? .
I rolled back the firmware then reinstalled the later firmware . And put in the default sysex but it hasn't touched the hardwired buttons only the templates .
James 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "montessa@..." <montessa@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi all . 
> I have joined in the hope of resurrecting my bcr2000.
> I lent it out to a friend who seems to have played with in a bad bad way . 
> I thought it was safe as it had a pretty good custom template for ableton which only  required using.
> But he  told me that after pressing the wrong buttons 
> Things only got worse.
> And more worse when he took on his own to download read the manual and try and fix it himself. 
> The problem is the unit has been programmed at a 
> Manual level where the edit and exit buttons don't function, they do really strange things both of which are undesirable . The encoder group three button scatters the presets .    
> And the upper and lower number three push buttons activate all buttons both upper and lower .
> Having the edit and exit buttons is annoying as it renders fixing the unit manually impossible. 
> I was even considering just buying a new one and writing this unit off.
> Anyone here had this problem .
> Thanks to any help inadvance bcologiests.
> All presets were made with bcedit . 
> And two months before I loaned it I replaced two buttons from an old bcd2000  I used to use .
> But the unit was fully functional after the transplant.
>

Re: Never lend midi gear :(

2010-09-14 by montessa@y7mail.com

I must admit that bcfredit is a lot better communicating with my bcr.
But I hav'nt used it for a long time now 9+months.
I reinstalled the drivers for my new laptop but I think its a lost cause.
It's main problem is the edit button which seems to do something different everytime you press it.
It just scrambles the unit I get panic on the screen next time it changes presets,midi input out led's change.
Buttons 35 and 43 still activate the all the other buttons on the lines.
And encoder group button 3 behave just like the edit button?.
Ireally don't care if the edit button never works again but without group encoder 3 and the buttons 35 and 43 not working the unit is useless to me. :(
James

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