Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hi all -

First post here, I'm so glad I found this group (Jerome of espace recommended it ...) 

I've just ordered a BCF-2000, for use in Cubase 6. By way of background, though I can make some tunes with overdubs, automation, etc., none of it is intuitive to me and what little I do know I had to study hard to learn.

After reading the info found on this wonderful group about the BCF-2000, I am getting very apprehensive about my ability to get the it up and running. I would be ecstatic just to use it for mixer and Quick Control Faders, I don't even need to have it control VST instruments. But the information on this forum seems so very advanced, I'm not sure at all what most of it is even referring to. What I do know, based on many recommendations, is that I'd like to run this in Mackie emulation mode.

Here's what I've done so far: I've downloaded the english version of Jerome's French document "BCF 2000 english.zip", from the "Files" section of this group (that translation is enough to give me apprehension all by itself!),  and from the Behringer website the zip files called: bcf2000_1-10.zip, BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip, BCFview.zip, Update_Utility.zip, BC-Edit_02beta3.zip.

What I was planning on doing was trying to follow the english translation of Jerome's document. Originally I was going to just follow some youtubes, but they seem so data sparse compared to the Jerome document translation that I'm thinking they likely are missing at least one or two key steps.

Does that seem like the best way for me to try to get this up and running? If anyone has any ideas that might get a newbie to where I'd like to be (faders/knobs mapped to Cubase), I'd be grateful to hear.

Thanks so much in advance - 

Alexis

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cubasesix" <cubasesix@...> wrote:
> Here's what I've done so far: I've downloaded the english version of Jerome's French document "BCF 2000 english.zip", from the "Files" section of this group (that translation is enough to give me apprehension all by itself!),  and from the Behringer website the zip files called: bcf2000_1-10.zip, BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip, BCFview.zip, Update_Utility.zip, BC-Edit_02beta3.zip.

You don't need bcf2000_1-10.zip (the firmware) and Update_Utility.zip (unless your BCF2000 does NOT display "1.10" during startup).

And you don't need BC-Edit_02beta3.zip either, because it's an editor for the BCF2000's 32 presets, which are only accessible in "standard B-Control" mode, NOT in the emulation modes.
(Besides, BC-Edit won't work anyway unless you install a VERY old version of Java (JRE).)

All you need to do is install the USB driver (BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip) and put the BCF in Mackie mode (by holding the appropriate button while switching the unit on).

For monitoring you can indeed use BCFview, or my own MIDI Tools or BC Manager.

Hope this helps,
Mark.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cubasesix" <cubasesix@> wrote:
> > Here's what I've done so far: I've downloaded the english version of Jerome's French document "BCF 2000 english.zip", from the "Files" section of this group (that translation is enough to give me apprehension all by itself!),  and from the Behringer website the zip files called: bcf2000_1-10.zip, BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip, BCFview.zip, Update_Utility.zip, BC-Edit_02beta3.zip.
> 
> You don't need bcf2000_1-10.zip (the firmware) and Update_Utility.zip (unless your BCF2000 does NOT display "1.10" during startup).
> 
> And you don't need BC-Edit_02beta3.zip either, because it's an editor for the BCF2000's 32 presets, which are only accessible in "standard B-Control" mode, NOT in the emulation modes.
> (Besides, BC-Edit won't work anyway unless you install a VERY old version of Java (JRE).)
> 
> All you need to do is install the USB driver (BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip) and put the BCF in Mackie mode (by holding the appropriate button while switching the unit on).
> 
> For monitoring you can indeed use BCFview, or my own MIDI Tools or BC Manager.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Mark.
>
Hello Mark - THANK YOU! You have saved me hours or work, fruitless at that. I'm SO grateful!

Re: your MIDI Tools vs BC Manager vx. BCFview - where can I access the 1st two, and can you tell me advantages of either of them over each other and vs BCFview? Any/all of the three OK with XP SP2?

Thank you again -

Anyone use a bcf successfully w digital performer? My plan is to get 3 working together so I can have 24 faders. However I can't get even one to work with dp. In logic I have no problem. Any help would be greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Alex <brufordrules@...> wrote:

> You can get them here:
> 
> BC Manager
> 
> MIDI Tools
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 2012/2/13 cubasesix <cubasesix@...>
>  
> 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cubasesix" <cubasesix@> wrote:
> > > Here's what I've done so far: I've downloaded the english version of Jerome's French document "BCF 2000 english.zip", from the "Files" section of this group (that translation is enough to give me apprehension all by itself!), and from the Behringer website the zip files called: bcf2000_1-10.zip, BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip, BCFview.zip, Update_Utility.zip, BC-Edit_02beta3.zip.
> > 
> > You don't need bcf2000_1-10.zip (the firmware) and Update_Utility.zip (unless your BCF2000 does NOT display "1.10" during startup).
> > 
> > And you don't need BC-Edit_02beta3.zip either, because it's an editor for the BCF2000's 32 presets, which are only accessible in "standard B-Control" mode, NOT in the emulation modes.
> > (Besides, BC-Edit won't work anyway unless you install a VERY old version of Java (JRE).)
> > 
> > All you need to do is install the USB driver (BEHRINGER_MIDI_WIN32_1.0.10.zip) and put the BCF in Mackie mode (by holding the appropriate button while switching the unit on).
> > 
> > For monitoring you can indeed use BCFview, or my own MIDI Tools or BC Manager.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > Mark.
> >
> Hello Mark - THANK YOU! You have saved me hours or work, fruitless at that. I'm SO grateful!
> 
> Re: your MIDI Tools vs BC Manager vx. BCFview - where can I access the 1st two, and can you tell me advantages of either of them over each other and vs BCFview? Any/all of the three OK with XP SP2?
> 
> Thank you again -
> 
> 
>

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cubasesix" <cubasesix@...> wrote:
> Re: your MIDI Tools vs BC Manager vx. BCFview - can you tell me advantages of either of them over each other and vs BCFview?

There are 2 types of Mackie display messages:

1. Display messages sent by a computer program (Reason, Sonar, etc.) TO the Mackie (or in our case: a BCF2000 or BCR2000, in whatever mode).
These messages can be intercepted and shown by Huskervu, MIDI Tools or BC Manager.

2. Display messages sent by a BCF2000 in a Mackie emulation mode TO the computer program.
These messages can be intercepted by BCFview or BC Manager.

For more explanation, see BC Manager Manual (vs. 2.3.2), pp. 26-27 and 39.
As stated on p. 39, for a BCF in Mackie mode it's probably better to capture the second type of message, so you'd use BCFView or BC Manager rather than Huskervu or MIDI Tools.

I can't remember right now whether there are any differences between BCFview and BC Manager's BCFview-like feature.
In any case BC Manager offers a host of other tools for the BCF/BCR, although most of these concern "standard B-Control" mode.

> Any/all of the three OK with XP SP2?

MIDI Tools and BC Manager: definitely yes. (Also with Vista and 7, both 32 and 64 bit.)

BCFview: I think this was developed during the XP era, so it should definitely work under XP+SP2. I'm not totally sure whether it works under Vista/7, particularly 64-bit.

Hope this helps,
Mark.

Hello Mark - Thank you for your wonderful explanation! I haven't had the chance to unpack the BCF2000, but I will soon, and will have your posts printed out beside me when I start connections.

I'll post back with progress - thank you again!

Alexis
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--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:

>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cubasesix" <cubasesix@> wrote:
> > Re: your MIDI Tools vs BC Manager vx. BCFview - can you tell me advantages of either of them over each other and vs BCFview?
> 
> There are 2 types of Mackie display messages:
> 
> 1. Display messages sent by a computer program (Reason, Sonar, etc.) TO the Mackie (or in our case: a BCF2000 or BCR2000, in whatever mode).
> These messages can be intercepted and shown by Huskervu, MIDI Tools or BC Manager.
> 
> 2. Display messages sent by a BCF2000 in a Mackie emulation mode TO the computer program.
> These messages can be intercepted by BCFview or BC Manager.
> 
> For more explanation, see BC Manager Manual (vs. 2.3.2), pp. 26-27 and 39.
> As stated on p. 39, for a BCF in Mackie mode it's probably better to capture the second type of message, so you'd use BCFView or BC Manager rather than Huskervu or MIDI Tools.
> 
> I can't remember right now whether there are any differences between BCFview and BC Manager's BCFview-like feature.
> In any case BC Manager offers a host of other tools for the BCF/BCR, although most of these concern "standard B-Control" mode.
> 
> > Any/all of the three OK with XP SP2?
> 
> MIDI Tools and BC Manager: definitely yes. (Also with Vista and 7, both 32 and 64 bit.)
> 
> BCFview: I think this was developed during the XP era, so it should definitely work under XP+SP2. I'm not totally sure whether it works under Vista/7, particularly 64-bit.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Mark.
>