Yahoo Groups archive

Cgs synth

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:16 UTC

Message

Re: Bi N Tic question

2007-10-09 by djbrow54

At 500 mV, no amount of gain is going to help your transistor. There
simply isn't enough voltage to bias the transistor on. You need to
change the rolloff frequency. Changing the value of the capacitor or
resistor will do that.

I couldn't figure out why I wanted a high pass filter or capacitive
coupling so I just simplified it with a level shifter. Maybe there is
a reason but no matter what, this is a great filter. It's one of my
favorites, and I get some really neat sounds with a very low
frequency.

Dave

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Rolando <goldenechos@...>
wrote:
> Dave, your description makes alot of sense. When I look at what is
happening on my scope I am seeing the VCO hi-pass filtered until there
is almost no amplitude. I measured the frequency and mine really
starts to lose amplitude at 20hz and is less than 500mv by 17hz.
>
> The 100n cap and the 100k series R and 100k R to gnd form a high-
pass filter, right.
>
> Perhaps changing the value of the cap and or resistor(s) would also
solve the problem. Dave I like your fix, it is simple, works.
>
> Ken has suggested that the variation in gain on the transistor is
the culprit. I am going to try changing the series R to 47k (as he
suggested) tonight.
>
> IN ANY CASE, THANK YOU everybody for your insight. I have the
circuit working, but I am still just curious about how this was
happening on my board. I have hard time believing that Dave and I are
the only people that have had this issue... Maybe there is something
about the way solder flows in North Carolina!
>
> Tony
> To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
> From: davebr@...
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:23:37 +0000
> Subject: [cgs_synth] Re: Bi N Tic question
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It'a a high pass filter and eventually it will roll off
so that the
>
> transistor is not ever biased on. Mine rolled off somewhere below
15
>
> Hz. At 5 Hz the drive was 400 mV, well below Vbe required to bias
the
>
> transistor. That's why I changed to a level shifter by dividing the
>
> signal and clamping it to ground. Fewer parts and works to 'DC'.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live
OneCare!
> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?
s_cid=wl_hotmailnews
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.