oops sorry, i missed this one!
--- On Sun, 10/1/10, Guy <guy@...> wrote:
From: Guy <guy@...>
Subject: [cgs_synth] Re: Utility LFO (was:How to debug non-working modules) -- solved !
To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 11:48 PM
Found it !
Accidentally used a 100k instead of the 150k across p12 & p14 (Schmitt Trigger). Strangely enough, the other LFO has that 100k there too, but worked... ?
Glad I got everything working now. Thanks for the help.
_g
--- In cgs_synth@yahoogrou ps.com, "Guy" <guy@...> wrote:
>
> No +V going to the chips. The +V bead wasn't soldered properly... how dumb.
>
> LFO still isn't working though. Vari & Mix outputs still spitting out a steady negative voltage, but Pulse & Square now going positive (only)...
>
> Hmmm... onwards.
>
> _g
>
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogrou ps.com, "Guy" <guy@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogrou ps.com, sasami@ wrote:
> > >
> > > >Okay, so it's probably not those. I'm quite certain the speed & shape pots
> > > are wired correctly.
> > >
> > > Something is preventing them from oscillating. Whatever it is, that is what
> > > you need to find. Make sure your 1N4148 diodes are in the right direction.
> > > Also make sure that both power rails are getting to the chips.
> >
> > Ah yes, I should start there. It's outputting only negative voltages, so that makes sense... Lemme look up the 074 datasheet and find out where to measure.
> > Diodes are fine.
> >
> > >
> > > >But I'm wondering, which part of the PCB is LFO1 and which is LFO2 ? Not
> > > sure if that matters, but it's most likely that I've done the swap/join
> > > switches not correctly. I've hooked up the top LFO's VARI pot pads ("top"
> > > when Power pads are at the bottom) to the swap switch, and so on... Dunno if
> > > this could influence the oscillation ?
> > >
> > > Either can be LFO1 - depends on how you wire them. Usually I would consider
> > > the one nearer the power connector to be LFO 1
> >
> > Hmm, okay, so that's my LFO 2. :-)
> >
> > >
> > > >Or should I try to skip the switches as a test, and hook up the outputs &
> > > pots directly ?
> > >
> > > The switches and vari pots are the last of your worries - they don't affect
> > > the core.
> >
> > Thanks for telling me now. I was just about to dismantle half of the wiring...
> >
> > _g
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >_g
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogrou ps.com, sasami@ wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The first step would to be to find out why it is not oscillating, so
> > > >> investigate the circuit around that area - and that means the speed pot and
> > > >> the shape pot. Getting two wires to a pot swapped could well kill it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ken
> > > >>
> > > >> >...more specifically the Utility LFO, to start with.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Wired it up, with Join/Swap switches. +/-12V feed, banana jacks.
> > > >> >LEDs don't flash, but a quick DVM measuring at the outputs gives me app.
> > > >> -4V on most and even -8V on some other outputs (the Vari's, I think). The
> > > >> output voltages don't seem to fluctuate at all... (I did not do an audio
> > > >> check, nor do I have a scope)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Apart from the obvious basic legwork (IC's put in correctly, no bad solder
> > > >> joints, no short circuits at first sight, and that tricky little jumper is
> > > >> present), what would be the methodology to start hunting for bugs ? Which
> > > >> points should/could I measure first ? What would be good deductive steps to
> > > >> undertake to pinpoint the problem ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >tia !
> > > >> >
> > > >> >_guy
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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