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Re: CGS48, how to be sure it's fine ?

2013-09-03 by jean0bender

Ok Ken, thanks for the answer.
Is it normal if the sine output is not so loud as the other outputs ? I'm powering the vco via +/-15v. Maybe i should change some resistors to fix that ? I've seen the schematic uses +/-12v. If not, what should i check ? Changing the two 100K resistors near the 1v/o inputs ?

thanks !


--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, <cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Square out is a different issue altogether. No square out happens when the PWM voltage is outside the range covered by the sawtooth. The CV issue is a problem somewhere in your input mixer, where you seem to have excessive gain.





--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , < cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com > wrote:



yep, i didn't forget it. The fact is i can see on my scope the saw out, the sine one, but i can't have square out. Tomorrow i'll desolder all the pots & out, and change my transistors & tempco... we'll see what happens !











--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , < cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com > wrote:







Have you fitted the 1k tempco resistor (or a regular 1k resistor in its







place)? When I built a similar VCO using discrete transistors instead of an







LM394, I forgot to place this resistor, and the oscillator didn't work.







This is the resistor that is supposed to sit over the LM394 for thermal







coupling, which is why I forgot it when using transistors.























On 2 September 2013 16:15, < lofideadbeat@... > wrote:















> **







>







>







> Well, here are my test. Seems to be a bit weird. I've multimetered my ics







> when my pots where center positionned







>







> i can see that if i approach my fingers to the pots or some parts it's







> altering the sound...







> I've rechecked all my links & solders...







>







> IC1 / TLO72







> 1 : -1,55v







> 2 : 0







> 3 : 0







> 4 : -15







> 5 : 0







> 6 : 0







> 7 : 0







> 8 : 15







>







> IC2 LM394/2N3904







> 1 : 0







> 2 : 0







> 3 : -0,5







> 4 : nc







> 5 : nc







> 6 : -0,5







> 7 : 0







> 8 : 0







>







> IC3 : TLO72 near the unicorn







>







> 1 : 0







> 2 : 0







> 3 : 0







> 4 : -15







> 5 : 0







> 6 : 0







> 7 : 0







> 8 : 15







>







> IC4 / CA3140







>







> 1 : -15







> 2 : 0







> 3 : 0







> 4 : -15







> 5 : -15







> 6 : 2







> 7 : 15







> 8 : 3,5







>







> IC5 / LM3900







>







> 1 : 0,1v







> 2 : 0,4







> 3 : 0,5







> 4 : 0,15







> 5 : 0,15







> 6 : 0,55







> 7 : 0







> 8 : 0,53







> 9 : 2,2







> 10 : 2,2







> 11 : 0,5







> 12 : 0,37







> 13 : 0,37







> 14 : 15







>







> IC6 / LM311







>







> 1 : -15v







> 2 : 2,2







> 3 : 4,96







> 4 : 15,3







> 5 : 15







> 6 : 15







> 7 : -15







> 8 : 15







>







> IC7 / TLO72







>







> 1 : BTW +6 & +12







> 2 : 0







> 3 : 0







> 4 : -15







> 5 : BTW -2 & +2







> 6 : -0,3







> 7 : BTW -8 & +12







> 8 : 15







>







>







>







> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , <lofideadbeat@...> wrote:







>







> Well, thanks for your answer Ken... I think my problem is somewhere else,







> but can't see where.







>







> If i use my sequencer on the vc fm, i can modulate the vco.







>







> If i apply the same cv output to the cv in, my vco doesn"t respond. If i







> apply the cv output to the 1v/o in, nothing. If i apply 1v to the 1v/o







> input, nothing..







>







> I've got 0v on ic1 pin 7, when i've got my tune and freq pot in center







> position, but if i try to move them, they don't modulate a lot ( maybe from







> 11 to 1 oclock).







>







> thanks for any help. I gonna check all the ics voltages and send it there,







> maybe it'll help !







>







>







>







> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , <sasami@...> wrote:







>







> If the span trimmer is not right, the VCO may be too sensitive to CV and to







>







> the tuning pot.







>







> Ken







>







> >Hi Everybody ! That's my first post here, as after building several







>







> modules, i think i've got some problems to fix on my cgs48. I've







>







> used a 2N3904 matched pair instead of the LM394. I think that my vco is







>







> working, but i can't really use the initial freq pot. It must be always







>







> in its center position if i want to hear the vco. Is it normal ? I only can







>







> tune the vco using the fine pot... In a post here, i've seen i could







>







> change the 1m resitor to a 2,2m one, and i did this change, but it just







>







> affect the fine tune pot, no the intial one. What should i check ? thanks







>







> for any help ! jean







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