VCO low freq limit, etc.
2005-03-24 by charlesosthelder
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2005-03-24 by charlesosthelder
2005-03-25 by dustin sedlacek
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> Hi all!
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> I've got two VCO pcb's on order and am getting the parts together
> (yes, I'll get a US parts list together!)for an all-the-options setup.
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> Can anyone tell me what the typical low frequency limit is without
> mods? Also, do you have any useful build info that hasn't been
> presented on the list?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chub
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2005-03-25 by charlesosthelder
> speaking of the VCO - anyone made any mods to it ?Check the archives, Dustin. Both Ken and Richard
> Dustin
2005-03-25 by Richard Brewster
>speaking of the VCO - anyone made any mods to it ?
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>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:20:52 -0000, charlesosthelder
><osthelder@...> wrote:
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>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've got two VCO pcb's on order and am getting the parts together
>> (yes, I'll get a US parts list together!)for an all-the-options setup.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what the typical low frequency limit is without
>> mods? Also, do you have any useful build info that hasn't been
>> presented on the list?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chub
>>
>>
>>
>>
2005-03-26 by Richard Brewster
>--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, dustin sedlacek
><dustin.sedlacek@g...> wrote:
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>>speaking of the VCO - anyone made any mods to it ?
>>Dustin
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>Check the archives, Dustin. Both Ken and Richard
>Brewster have made some suggestions.
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>I'll be using Richard's resistor mod for a sawtooth output centered
>on zero volts. Mostly, I'll be removing things - the second CV
>processor input, the extra V/oct ins, the 0-10v sine - but keeping
>everything else.
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>I have another question, though. Is the sawtooth only 5Vp-p with
>Richard's resistor mods?
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>Thanks!
>
>Chub
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>Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
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2005-03-26 by dustin sedlacek
> The sawtooth is +/-5V (10V p-p) with the mod I made. I found this old--
> post in the archives:
>
> The sawtooth buffer amp shows a 330K feedback resistor and a 240K bias
> on the schematic. I inserted pots and adjusted to get a +/-5V sawtooth.
> The values turned out to be exactly 200K / 600K, just like the ASM-1.
> This is also just what you would expect to convert the 0-5V signal out
> of the CA3140. Double the voltage (200K/100K), then offset the 0 to -10V
> result back to +/-5.
>
> -Richard
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> charlesosthelder wrote:
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> >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, dustin sedlacek
> ><dustin.sedlacek@g...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>speaking of the VCO - anyone made any mods to it ?
> >>Dustin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Check the archives, Dustin. Both Ken and Richard
> >Brewster have made some suggestions.
> >
> >I'll be using Richard's resistor mod for a sawtooth output centered
> >on zero volts. Mostly, I'll be removing things - the second CV
> >processor input, the extra V/oct ins, the 0-10v sine - but keeping
> >everything else.
> >
> >I have another question, though. Is the sawtooth only 5Vp-p with
> >Richard's resistor mods?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Chub
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> >
> >See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> >Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
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> See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
>
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2005-03-26 by dustin sedlacek
> Yes, in fact I made several mods. I should upload my schematics to show--
> all the changes, but I just moved to a new house and the computer with
> my drawing program is still packed up along with my modular synth. I
> changed the sawtooth output to be +/-5V, and drove the pulse wave
> comparator from that with DC coupling, so the pulse wave always tracks
> down to the lowest frequency. I added a bit of hysteresis to the pulse
> comparator on the output. I made some changes to the frequency controls
> inputs, too. I followed some ideas from the ASM VCO, which I recommend
> you have a look at for reference. Ken's VCO board allows you to build
> it in a lot of different configurations. I only built the VCO core and
> didn't use the waveshapers because I wanted to have two VCOs in 1U MOTM
> size panels.
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> As for the low frequency limit, the VCO core will go quite low with
> negative VC inputs. But because the waveshapers are AC coupled, these
> will have a low frequency limit in the low audio range, I would think.
>
> -Richard Brewster
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> dustin sedlacek wrote:
>
> >speaking of the VCO - anyone made any mods to it ?
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:20:52 -0000, charlesosthelder
> ><osthelder@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all!
> >>
> >> I've got two VCO pcb's on order and am getting the parts together
> >> (yes, I'll get a US parts list together!)for an all-the-options setup.
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me what the typical low frequency limit is without
> >> mods? Also, do you have any useful build info that hasn't been
> >> presented on the list?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Chub
> >>
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> See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
>
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2005-03-26 by sasami@hotkey.net.au
>No. With through zero, the frequency climbs again. The frequency for 1V is
>richard you said "As for the low frequency limit, the VCO core will go
>quite low with
>negative VC inputs." isnt this the same as through zero ?