Cgs synth

>Hi,
>I'm looking at adapting this for my own CGS system:
>http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
>I will probably have 3 horizontal shelves so that the modules will be
>in a square.
>Can someone tell me what the average height and width of 1 module/"1
>CGS unit" is? Is their a better choice of panel to go for?
>Thanks,
>PSG
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@... wrote:
>
> There is no hard and fast rule. My earlier modules were all mounted
behind
> the .com/moog sized panels. Now days, I use Serge format. The boards
> themselves fite behind either. A number of people have designed
panels for
> MOTM, and these can be adapted for use on the .com
>
> Ken
>
> >Hi,
> >I'm looking at adapting this for my own CGS system:
> >http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
> >I will probably have 3 horizontal shelves so that the modules will be
> >in a square.
> >Can someone tell me what the average height and width of 1 module/"1
> >CGS unit" is? Is their a better choice of panel to go for?
> >Thanks,
> >PSG
> >
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> >
> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
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> _______________________________________________________________________
> Ken Stone sasami@... or sasami@...
> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
>

> Ok, thanks, I'm looking at going with the Modcan/MOTM size from this:
> http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@... wrote:
>
>> There is no hard and fast rule. My earlier modules were all mounted
>>
> behind
>
>> the .com/moog sized panels. Now days, I use Serge format. The boards
>> themselves fite behind either. A number of people have designed
>>
> panels for
>
>> MOTM, and these can be adapted for use on the .com
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm looking at adapting this for my own CGS system:
>>> http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
>>> I will probably have 3 horizontal shelves so that the modules will be
>>> in a square.
>>> Can someone tell me what the average height and width of 1 module/"1
>>> CGS unit" is? Is their a better choice of panel to go for?
>>> Thanks,
>>> PSG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

On Aug 25, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Richard Brewster wrote:

> I guess you mean Modcan B series, which is the same form factor as
> MOTM,
> although the panels are physically quite different. Be sure to check
> out the ModularSynthPanels Yahoo group:
>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ModularSynthPanels/
>
> I had not see the dot com DIY cabinet page before. Although dot com
> panels are wider than MOTM, they are the same height, and their walnut
> cabinets can be used. I have several. No doubt you could make your own
> DIY cabinet for MOTM size panels. It's a popular format with people
> who
> prefer top quality Spectrol/Bourns pots and 1/4" jacks. Those parts
> and
> the panels themselves (especially if you use Front Panel Express)
> start
> pushing up the cost of a module pretty quick. You don't have to use
> the
> most expensive pots and jacks, of course. DIY is all about making your
> own choices.
>
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
>
> Future Image wrote:
> > Ok, thanks, I'm looking at going with the Modcan/MOTM size from
> this:
> > http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@... wrote:
> >
> >> There is no hard and fast rule. My earlier modules were all mounted
> >>
> > behind
> >
> >> the .com/moog sized panels. Now days, I use Serge format. The
> boards
> >> themselves fite behind either. A number of people have designed
> >>
> > panels for
> >
> >> MOTM, and these can be adapted for use on the .com
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I'm looking at adapting this for my own CGS system:
> >>> http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
> >>> I will probably have 3 horizontal shelves so that the modules
> will be
> >>> in a square.
> >>> Can someone tell me what the average height and width of 1
> module/"1
> >>> CGS unit" is? Is their a better choice of panel to go for?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> PSG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
>

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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>
> I guess you mean Modcan B series, which is the same form factor as
MOTM,
> although the panels are physically quite different. Be sure to check
> out the ModularSynthPanels Yahoo group:
>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ModularSynthPanels/
>
> I had not see the dot com DIY cabinet page before. Although dot com
> panels are wider than MOTM, they are the same height, and their walnut
> cabinets can be used. I have several. No doubt you could make your
own
> DIY cabinet for MOTM size panels. It's a popular format with people
who
> prefer top quality Spectrol/Bourns pots and 1/4" jacks. Those parts
and
> the panels themselves (especially if you use Front Panel Express) start
> pushing up the cost of a module pretty quick. You don't have to use
the
> most expensive pots and jacks, of course. DIY is all about making your
> own choices.
>
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
>
> Future Image wrote:
> > Ok, thanks, I'm looking at going with the Modcan/MOTM size from this:
> > http://www.synthesizers.com/formfactors.html
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@ wrote:
> >
> >> There is no hard and fast rule. My earlier modules were all mounted
> >>
> > behind
> >
> >> the .com/moog sized panels. Now days, I use Serge format. The boards
> >> themselves fite behind either. A number of people have designed
> >>
> > panels for
> >
> >> MOTM, and these can be adapted for use on the .com
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I'm looking at adapting this for my own CGS system:
> >>> http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
> >>> I will probably have 3 horizontal shelves so that the modules
will be
> >>> in a square.
> >>> Can someone tell me what the average height and width of 1 module/"1
> >>> CGS unit" is? Is their a better choice of panel to go for?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> PSG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>

> Hi,
>
> Yes, it must be the Modcan B panels. When you say "physically
> different" do you just mean how they look?
>
>

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@...> wrote:
>
> MOTM style panels are made from a flat, rectangular piece of aluminum,
> usually 300 mm thick. Modcan B panels are made out of a much thinner
> sheet of aluminum, with added rigidity from having the edges bent over
> to form a channel. Here is a picture:
>
> http://www.modcan.com/bphoto/rear%20view.jpg
>
> Because of this difference, Modcan B modules may not fit well in the
> regular MOTM-style rack. If MOTM and Modcan B modules were to sit side
> by side, you would need to add spacers behind the Modcan panels to
bring
> them flush with the MOTM. If someone has done it, I've never heard how
> it worked out.
>
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
>
> Future Image wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, it must be the Modcan B panels. When you say "physically
> > different" do you just mean how they look?
> >
> >
>

> Ok, but surely you mean 30mm thick, not 300? We'll probably go with
> the thicker aluminium (if we can find it cheap enough, B&Q only had
> 0.5mm aluminium).
> We've decided to buy a flat pack box from Ikea and cut the "solid
> birch" up a little to give us the correct dimensions. One modified box
> should hold 16U in width with two shelves of 5U.
> This is gonna be more of a love hate relationship. Love the modules,
> hate the Ikea cabinet.
>

>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@> wrote:
> >
> > MOTM style panels are made from a flat, rectangular piece of

> > usually 300 mm thick. Modcan B panels are made out of a much thinner
> > sheet of aluminum, with added rigidity from having the edges bent

> > to form a channel. Here is a picture:
> >
> > http://www.modcan.com/bphoto/rear%20view.jpg
> >
> > Because of this difference, Modcan B modules may not fit well in the
> > regular MOTM-style rack. If MOTM and Modcan B modules were to sit

> > by side, you would need to add spacers behind the Modcan panels to
> bring
> > them flush with the MOTM. If someone has done it, I've never

> > it worked out.
> >
> > Richard Brewster
> > http://www.pugix.com
> >
> > Future Image wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, it must be the Modcan B panels. When you say "physically
> > > different" do you just mean how they look?
> > >
> > >
> >
>

> 30mm is just under an inch...thats a chunky panel!
>
>
>
>> Ok, but surely you mean 30mm thick, not 300? We'll probably go with
>> the thicker aluminium (if we can find it cheap enough, B&Q only had
>> 0.5mm aluminium).
>> We've decided to buy a flat pack box from Ikea and cut the "solid
>> birch" up a little to give us the correct dimensions. One modified box
>> should hold 16U in width with two shelves of 5U.
>> This is gonna be more of a love hate relationship. Love the modules,
>> hate the Ikea cabinet.
>>
>>
>
> its just an idea for the cabinet - work out the dimensions you need,
> though keep the design fairly simple, head down the local hardware
> store (bigger the better?).
> you don't need CAD drawings, just a rough sketch with the dimensions
> noted.
> choose the wood you like and get them to cut it to your specs, should
> only cost an extra few dollars. The store staff should be able to sort
> you for fasteners, etc too.
> Much cheaper than Ikea and hopefully you will get a cabinet you at
> least like.
>
> i did this for my 'boxes' -
> http://www.sdiy.org/pinky/box/picture006.jpg
> they even cut little grooves for the panels to slot into.
> from memory it was around $40 for everything.
>
>
>

>
> MOTM style panels are made from a flat, rectangular piece of aluminum,
> usually 300 mm thick. Modcan B panels are made out of a much thinner
> sheet of aluminum, with added rigidity from having the edges bent over
> to form a channel. Here is a picture:
>
> http://www.modcan.com/bphoto/rear%20view.jpg
>
> Because of this difference, Modcan B modules may not fit well in the
> regular MOTM-style rack. If MOTM and Modcan B modules were to sit side
> by side, you would need to add spacers behind the Modcan panels to

> them flush with the MOTM. If someone has done it, I've never heard how
> it worked out.
>
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
>
> Future Image wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, it must be the Modcan B panels. When you say "physically
> > different" do you just mean how they look?
> >
> >
>

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Dave Kendall <davekendall@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> Shouldn't that be 3mm?.......
> The cheapest I've found for Ally panels was from a sheet metal works. My
> Uncle in "dodgy geezer" mode, had a word with the foreman, and suggested
> that he cut the panels from offcuts. I ended up with nearly 60U width of
> different sized panels, beautifully cut and finished for about £15.
> For the case, maybe try premboard from B+Q. Sounds like you've got
to cut
> the IKEA cabinet up anyway, so it might be easier to start from scratch,
> that way you could get exactly the size you need. Premboard is pine, and
> pretty easy to cut.
>
> cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> on 31/8/06 11:13, Future Image at futureimage@... wrote:
>
> Ok, but surely you mean 30mm thick, not 300? We'll probably go with
> the thicker aluminium (if we can find it cheap enough, B&Q only had
> 0.5mm aluminium).
> We've decided to buy a flat pack box from Ikea and cut the "solid
> birch" up a little to give us the correct dimensions. One modified box
> should hold 16U in width with two shelves of 5U.
> This is gonna be more of a love hate relationship. Love the modules,
> hate the Ikea cabinet.
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cgs_synth%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Richard Brewster <pugix@> wrote:
> >
> > MOTM style panels are made from a flat, rectangular piece of aluminum,
> > usually 300 mm thick. Modcan B panels are made out of a much thinner
> > sheet of aluminum, with added rigidity from having the edges bent over
> > to form a channel. Here is a picture:
> >
> > http://www.modcan.com/bphoto/rear%20view.jpg
> >
> > Because of this difference, Modcan B modules may not fit well in the
> > regular MOTM-style rack. If MOTM and Modcan B modules were to sit
side
> > by side, you would need to add spacers behind the Modcan panels to
> bring
> > them flush with the MOTM. If someone has done it, I've never
heard how
> > it worked out.
> >
> > Richard Brewster
> > http://www.pugix.com
> >
> > Future Image wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, it must be the Modcan B panels. When you say "physically
> > > different" do you just mean how they look?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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