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Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-02 by John Loffink

To recap, I built my Steiner VCF and noticed that the entire frequency range
was covered by knob positions 0 through 5. I also wanted the direct control
voltage input to track to approximately 1 V/octave. Here are the tweaks I
did to bring this circuit up to snuff. Your circuit may vary, so proceed
with caution if changing anything from the nominal values recommended by
Ken.

Output "level" jumper/resistor: I put 180K in the level position, in
addition to the 47K already in the op amp feedback path, or just put 220K
total in the 47K position. This gave the maximum resonant oscillation
amplitude without clipping and brought the normal non-oscillating output to
a better level.

FREQ knob adjustment. As stated, my original range of 0 to 5 (out of 10)
covered 20 Hz to 20 KHz. There are two resistors to adjust for this.
First, decreasing the size of the input divider resistor on the CV input
section, 1K in Ken's circuit, increases the range of the frequency control.
I put 2.2K in parallel with the 1K resistors, or you can swap the 1K with a
680 ohm resistor. Note that this also affects the Control voltage inputs,
so they will need to be adjusted. I also added 220K of series resistance to
the FREQ knob. This tends to center the frequencies on the FREQ knob so 200
Hz is near the center. With these values the knob range 0 to 10 sweeps
approximately 5 Hz to 25 KHz. This was measured by putting 20 Hz and 20KHz
sine waves into the LPF input and measuring the amplitudes at min and max
FREQ positions. I also tested audibly using white noise as an input.

I wanted my direct CV input (no knob) to sweep approximately 1 V per octave.
Just realize that the tracking on this filter is not that accurate. I
measured this by putting the filter into self oscillation and reading the
frequency with a frequency counter. Note that the filter oscillates from
about 200 Hz to 6.5 KHz, so that's the only range that was measured. For
this adjustment I added 148K in series to the existing 220K input resistor,
or just exchange the 220K input resistor with a 360K. Note this setting is
dependent upon the above mentioned input resistor divider modification.

For the attenuated CV input, I wanted a 5 volt MOTM envelope to sweep the
entire frequency range. In the original circuit the range was fine, but
when I changed the CV input resistor divider the range became too small.
This requires decreasing the size of the input series resistor from the pot
wiper. In Ken's circuit it is 220K, I put 300K in parallel, or just swap
the 220K resistor with a 120K resistor.

Ken, if there is this much variation per circuit you may want to consider
adding some trim pots to any future revision of the PCB. I double checked
all transistors, resistors and diodes in the circuit and everything was
originally built to your BOM.

This is a great filter, by the way, with lots of character. It sounds very
Moog ladderish with the low pass input, and mixing VCOs into the LP, HP and
BP inputs gives some great effects.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com




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Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by Richard Brewster

Nice work, John! I printed out your email for my notebook. This is
really helpful, as I am about to build two Steiner VCF boards.

Thanks,

-Richard Brewster

John Loffink wrote:
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>To recap, I built my Steiner VCF and noticed that the entire frequency range
>was covered by knob positions 0 through 5. I also wanted the direct control
>voltage input to track to approximately 1 V/octave. Here are the tweaks I
>did to bring this circuit up to snuff. Your circuit may vary, so proceed
>with caution if changing anything from the nominal values recommended by
>Ken.
>
>Output "level" jumper/resistor: I put 180K in the level position, in
>addition to the 47K already in the op amp feedback path, or just put 220K
>total in the 47K position. This gave the maximum resonant oscillation
>amplitude without clipping and brought the normal non-oscillating output to
>a better level.
>
>FREQ knob adjustment. As stated, my original range of 0 to 5 (out of 10)
>covered 20 Hz to 20 KHz. There are two resistors to adjust for this.
>First, decreasing the size of the input divider resistor on the CV input
>section, 1K in Ken's circuit, increases the range of the frequency control.
>I put 2.2K in parallel with the 1K resistors, or you can swap the 1K with a
>680 ohm resistor. Note that this also affects the Control voltage inputs,
>so they will need to be adjusted. I also added 220K of series resistance to
>the FREQ knob. This tends to center the frequencies on the FREQ knob so 200
>Hz is near the center. With these values the knob range 0 to 10 sweeps
>approximately 5 Hz to 25 KHz. This was measured by putting 20 Hz and 20KHz
>sine waves into the LPF input and measuring the amplitudes at min and max
>FREQ positions. I also tested audibly using white noise as an input.
>
>I wanted my direct CV input (no knob) to sweep approximately 1 V per octave.
>Just realize that the tracking on this filter is not that accurate. I
>measured this by putting the filter into self oscillation and reading the
>frequency with a frequency counter. Note that the filter oscillates from
>about 200 Hz to 6.5 KHz, so that's the only range that was measured. For
>this adjustment I added 148K in series to the existing 220K input resistor,
>or just exchange the 220K input resistor with a 360K. Note this setting is
>dependent upon the above mentioned input resistor divider modification.
>
>For the attenuated CV input, I wanted a 5 volt MOTM envelope to sweep the
>entire frequency range. In the original circuit the range was fine, but
>when I changed the CV input resistor divider the range became too small.
>This requires decreasing the size of the input series resistor from the pot
>wiper. In Ken's circuit it is 220K, I put 300K in parallel, or just swap
>the 220K resistor with a 120K resistor.
>
>Ken, if there is this much variation per circuit you may want to consider
>adding some trim pots to any future revision of the PCB. I double checked
>all transistors, resistors and diodes in the circuit and everything was
>originally built to your BOM.
>
>This is a great filter, by the way, with lots of character. It sounds very
>Moog ladderish with the low pass input, and mixing VCOs into the LP, HP and
>BP inputs gives some great effects.
>
>John Loffink
>The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
>http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
>The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
>http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by ALMAGATA@telefonica.net

Hi John,

thanks a lot for the info. Checking my steiner VCF, with res at
oscillation, it cover all audible spectrum between 2.5 and 6, I`ll do
the mods you posted but I like that extra sub-audio at 0-2.5 for
modulation.
Best Regards,

Josue.

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: Richard Brewster <pugix@...>
Fecha: Sábado, Enero 3, 2004 3:31 am
Asunto: Re: [cgs_synth] Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY
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> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> Nice work, John! I printed out your email for my notebook. This
> is
>
> really helpful, as I am about to build two Steiner VCF boards.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
>
>
> John Loffink wrote:
>
>
>
> >To recap, I built my Steiner VCF and noticed that the entire
> frequency range
>
> >was covered by knob positions 0 through 5. I also wanted the
> direct control
>
> >voltage input to track to approximately 1 V/octave. Here are
> the tweaks I
>
> >did to bring this circuit up to snuff. Your circuit may vary,
> so proceed
>
> >with caution if changing anything from the nominal values
> recommended by
>
> >Ken.
>
> >
>
> >Output "level" jumper/resistor: I put 180K in the
> level position, in
>
> >addition to the 47K already in the op amp feedback path, or
> just put 220K
>
> >total in the 47K position. This gave the maximum resonant
> oscillation
> >amplitude without clipping and brought the normal non-
> oscillating output to
>
> >a better level.
>
> >
>
> >FREQ knob adjustment. As stated, my original range of 0 to 5
> (out of 10)
>
> >covered 20 Hz to 20 KHz. There are two resistors to adjust
> for this.
>
> >First, decreasing the size of the input divider resistor on
> the CV input
>
> >section, 1K in Ken's circuit, increases the range of the
> frequency control.
>
> >I put 2.2K in parallel with the 1K resistors, or you can swap
> the 1K with a
>
> >680 ohm resistor. Note that this also affects the Control
> voltage inputs,
>
> >so they will need to be adjusted. I also added 220K of series
> resistance to
>
> >the FREQ knob. This tends to center the frequencies on the
> FREQ knob so 200
>
> >Hz is near the center. With these values the knob range 0 to
> 10 sweeps
>
> >approximately 5 Hz to 25 KHz. This was measured by putting 20
> Hz and 20KHz
>
> >sine waves into the LPF input and measuring the amplitudes at
> min and max
>
> >FREQ positions. I also tested audibly using white noise as an
> input.
> >
>
> >I wanted my direct CV input (no knob) to sweep approximately 1
> V per octave.
>
> >Just realize that the tracking on this filter is not that
> accurate. I
>
> >measured this by putting the filter into self oscillation and
> reading the
>
> >frequency with a frequency counter. Note that the filter
> oscillates from
>
> >about 200 Hz to 6.5 KHz, so that's the only range that was
> measured. For
>
> >this adjustment I added 148K in series to the existing 220K
> input resistor,
>
> >or just exchange the 220K input resistor with a 360K. Note
> this setting is
>
> >dependent upon the above mentioned input resistor divider
> modification.
> >
>
> >For the attenuated CV input, I wanted a 5 volt MOTM envelope
> to sweep the
>
> >entire frequency range. In the original circuit the range was
> fine, but
>
> >when I changed the CV input resistor divider the range became
> too small.
>
> >This requires decreasing the size of the input series resistor
> from the pot
>
> >wiper. In Ken's circuit it is 220K, I put 300K in parallel,
> or just swap
>
> >the 220K resistor with a 120K resistor.
>
> >
>
> >Ken, if there is this much variation per circuit you may want
> to consider
>
> >adding some trim pots to any future revision of the PCB. I
> double checked
>
> >all transistors, resistors and diodes in the circuit and
> everything was
>
> >originally built to your BOM.
>
> >
>
> >This is a great filter, by the way, with lots of character.
> It sounds very
>
> >Moog ladderish with the low pass input, and mixing VCOs into
> the LP, HP and
>
> >BP inputs gives some great effects.
>
> >
>
> >John Loffink
>
> >The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
>
> >http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
>
> >The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
>
> >http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> </tt>
>
>
>
>
> <tt>
> See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
>
> Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>
> Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/</tt>
>
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Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by John Loffink

Josue,

If you already have resonant oscillation between 2.5 and 6 then you may not
need the mods. My original build of the VCF resonated somewhere around 1-3.
After the mods it resonates between 5-7.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ALMAGATA@... [mailto:josue@...]
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:52 AM
> To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY
>
> Hi John,
>
> thanks a lot for the info. Checking my steiner VCF, with res at
> oscillation, it cover all audible spectrum between 2.5 and 6, I`ll do
> the mods you posted but I like that extra sub-audio at 0-2.5 for
> modulation.
> Best Regards,
>
> Josue.
>

Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by ALMAGATA@telefonica.net

ops!

Thanks John.

Josue.

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "John Loffink" <jloffink@...>
Fecha: Sábado, Enero 3, 2004 4:21 pm
Asunto: RE: [cgs_synth] Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY
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>
>
> <tt>
> Josue,
>
>
>
> If you already have resonant oscillation between 2.5 and 6 then
> you may not
>
> need the mods. My original build of the VCF resonated somewhere
> around 1-3.
>
> After the mods it resonates between 5-7.
>
>
>
> John Loffink
>
> The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
>
> http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
>
> The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
>
> http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: ALMAGATA@... [mailto:josue@...]
>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:52 AM
>
> > To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY
>
> >
>
> > Hi John,
>
> >
>
> > thanks a lot for the info. Checking my steiner VCF, with res at
>
> > oscillation, it cover all audible spectrum between 2.5 and 6,
> I`ll do
>
> > the mods you posted but I like that extra sub-audio at 0-2.5 for
>
> > modulation.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> >
>
> > Josue.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> </tt>
>
>
>
>
> <tt>
> See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
>
> Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>
> Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/</tt>
>
>
>
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Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by Jeffrey Pontius

John,
>
> If you already have resonant oscillation between 2.5 and 6 then you may not
> need the mods. My original build of the VCF resonated somewhere around 1-3.
> After the mods it resonates between 5-7.
>
Just to make sure I understand, the above numerical settings refer to the
Freq. pot, not the Res. pot. Correct?
Jeff

Re: Steiner VCF Tweaks DIY

2004-01-03 by John Loffink

Correct.

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Pontius [mailto:jpont@...]
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 9:58 AM
> >
> > If you already have resonant oscillation between 2.5 and 6 then you may
> not
> > need the mods. My original build of the VCF resonated somewhere around
> 1-3.
> > After the mods it resonates between 5-7.
> >
> Just to make sure I understand, the above numerical settings refer to the
> Freq. pot, not the Res. pot. Correct?
> Jeff
>
>

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