Crumar Musical Instruments User Group.

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hello crumar-trilogy-boyz-and-girlz, 

since i did a lot of research to understand the trilogy a bit and 
finally do understand him a bit , i thought to share this knowledge 
to any crumar-belover-musician ... the following r full extracts of 
mailxchange with jeremy, another crumar-owner ... i'll hope he'll 
find it okay : 



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hey jeremy °-°, 

thanx for the info , yesterday  i indeed try to tweak the presets 2-8 
and it = great to see it works well !! Now that i know that (almost 
all of ) the onboard controls only have effect on user set 1, i 
slightly begin to understand how my crumar works ... : ) 

pssst ... here = some advice or tip from me (as i xperimented with 
the crumar yesterday )- that is if you didn't already know - : 

on the back you've got the signal out and right under a  TM input 
(don't know what TM is )

well, if you use a small jack-to-jack cable in this TM input when 
playing a synth part you just will hear a clean synth ... but when 
you play the synth AND touch the tip of the cable, you will hear some 
delicate modulated synthsounds !! Oh, before i forget, i can remember 
that you'll only will hear these sounds if the sync is put on and 
ofcourse while playing at the same time !! These sounds as i said 
before are subtile changes ... but very useful i think ... héhé
we 
created our own crumar-theremin ;) [very very not comparable but 
that's why it = a joke] 

I also read that the input was used to control the LFO of the crumar. 
As i totally not am into electronics, and i mean building kits or 
doing modifications, i would'nt be able to go deeper into this. But 
if you discover a way to control this input, whatever it may be, 
would you let me know ? 

I tried to put a distortion before the jack-to-jack to pump up the 
volume but it wasn't much effective ... perhaps because the signal 
has to go 'much' farther , i dunno :( 

Also i tried to use the signal out, just to here the sounds [actually 
it = only one sound], and i must say i was very pleased with it, ... 
as i used my crumar in earlier times only with the polysynth-output, 
i thought the sound of the synth(not the organ or string-sounds) were 
very 'not that punchy enough' , ... but the signal out is everything 
i + -  thought an analogue synth would sound ... although nothing on 
the board responds to it ... only the pitch i think . I dunno if you 
heard once a roland system100 before  (yo david!)? ?  It surely 
doesn't sound like that [cos that is truly warm analogue sound!!] but 
it lets me kinda dream of it ... 

Well, it surely was cool to talk to another crumar-musician ... keep 
in contact 

ciao °-° 

jozefalexanderpedro        

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>From: jeremy bullian 

>To: jozefalexanderpedro 
>Subject: Re: crumar trilogy 
>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:59:38 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
>hey, nice to hear of another trilogy owner. Yes I've 
>found out a few things about the trilogy since I've 
>had it. 
> 
>I think this might answer your first two questions: #1 
>preset is open, meaning that tis the one where you 
>have full control over the sound. The other seven are 
>the true presets. unfortunately this synth was prior 
>to edit/save presets...however you can change these if 
>you'd like. It just takes a little effort. If you 
>uncrew the hood and lift it up you'll see on the left 
>(above the low end of the keyboard) the 2-8 preset 
>circuits. If you look close there are hole with 
>adjustable dials (tiny arrows that can turn, use a 
>very small screwdriver or something similar). you can 
>change the "hardwired" presets this way. So even 
>though you only have one preset with total control 
>(which is really all you need, though it would be nice 
>to have them all freed up) you still have some control 
>over the others. Also the LFO, ocsilator glide, and 
>the modulation do work with these presets. 
> 
>The ADSR, to my experience has only worked with preset 
>one. But this is part of what you can change "under 
>the hood." 
> 
>I'm not positive, but I think the interface and the TM 
>input were meant for an external effects device to be 
>used with the crumar. 
> 
>Also check through the previous posts for one of mine 
>concerning Mark Glinsky...find the one where I have his 
>website. He has the manual/schematics for the trilogy 
>if you don't already have one. i think it was like 
>$15. 
>It's pretty basic, but I did learn a few things once I 
>got it. Plus it comes with a bunch of patches to try 
>out on the trilogy. 
> 
>hope that helps, 
>-jeremy 
> 
>--- jozefalexanderpedro 
>wrote: 
> > 
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> > hello °-°, 
> > 
> > i bought myself some half year ago also a crumar 
> > trilogy - as it = my first synth ever !! - ... 
> > 
> > and since i've just read the yahoo.crumar-group ... 
> > i'd like to ask : 
> > 
> > 1) if with yr crumar the ADSR slides on the left 
> > work really well ? cos with mine it only works with 
> > preset 1 and a little bit with the 'last' preset ... 
> > is that normal ? 
> > 2) also ... the other functions seem a bit rough for 
> > me as i can't get direct effect from it ... Do you 
> > fully understand the trilogy-synth-section ? Could 
> > you then expain it a bit to me ? 
> > 3) What = the deal with the interface on the back of 
> > the crumar ? [is it the famous cv-interface ? ] 
> > 
> > many thanx in advance !!