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DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-04 by scapmo

The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem. When the synth is first turned on, the 
notes in the lowest octave sound about five and a half steps lower than they should, 
the notes from B-flat up through the next octave sound the same pitch, and the top 
octave sounds about three octaves lower than it should, with the notes transposed 
down five and a half steps.

After about five minutes, the lower two octaves sound correct pitches, but the 
top octave still sounds three octaves lower, and the pitches are transposed down five 
and a half steps.

Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?  Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay 
that had a similar problem, so apparently this problem is not unique. 

Thanks.

Chris

Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-04 by bunt curtis

Hi Chris, 

I recently bought that one on Ebay. 

I will let you know what the problem was once I get it
back from the shop. 

~Bunt


--- scapmo <chris@...> wrote:

> The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem. When the
> synth is first turned on, the 
> notes in the lowest octave sound about five and a
> half steps lower than they should, 
> the notes from B-flat up through the next octave
> sound the same pitch, and the top 
> octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
> should, with the notes transposed 
> down five and a half steps.
> 
> After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
> sound correct pitches, but the 
> top octave still sounds three octaves lower, and the
> pitches are transposed down five 
> and a half steps.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas what could be up? 
> Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay 
> that had a similar problem, so apparently this
> problem is not unique. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 



		
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Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-04 by Chris Scapelliti

Hi Bunt,

Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate your help and look forward to 
hearing how your DS1 turns out.

All the best,

Chris



bunt curtis wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> I recently bought that one on Ebay.
>
> I will let you know what the problem was once I get it
> back from the shop.
>
> ~Bunt
>
>
> --- scapmo <chris@...> wrote:
>
> > The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem. When the
> > synth is first turned on, the
> > notes in the lowest octave sound about five and a
> > half steps lower than they should,
> > the notes from B-flat up through the next octave
> > sound the same pitch, and the top
> > octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
> > should, with the notes transposed
> > down five and a half steps.
> >
> > After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
> > sound correct pitches, but the
> > top octave still sounds three octaves lower, and the
> > pitches are transposed down five
> > and a half steps.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?
> > Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay
> > that had a similar problem, so apparently this
> > problem is not unique.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-05 by Andrew Grantham

Hi.  Just take the board in the far back on the left, remove it and 
replace the 14532 chips.  They're cheap, so replace them all.  It's a 
$5 fix.

The Motorola MC14532BCP works great.


On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Chris Scapelliti wrote:

>  Hi Bunt,
>
>  Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate your help and look forward 
> to hearing how your DS1 turns out.
>
>  All the best,
>
>  Chris
>
>
>
>  bunt curtis wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>  I recently bought that one on Ebay.
>
>  I will let you know what the problem was once I get it
>  back from the shop.
>
>  ~Bunt
>
>
>  --- scapmo <chris@guitarworld.com> wrote:
>
>  > The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem. When the
>  > synth is first turned on, the
>  > notes in the lowest octave sound about five and a
>  > half steps lower than they should,
>  > the notes from B-flat up through the next octave
>  > sound the same pitch, and the top
>  > octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
>  > should, with the notes transposed
>  > down five and a half steps.
>  >
>  > After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
>  > sound correct pitches, but the
>  > top octave still sounds three octaves lower, and the
>  > pitches are transposed down five
>  > and a half steps.
>  >
>  > Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?
>  > Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay
>  > that had a similar problem, so apparently this
>  > problem is not unique.
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Chris
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
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Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-05 by bunt curtis

Really, 

Is that all it is? Thanks a mil for the advice. I will
be doing that when I get it. I will post back later!

Cheers,
Bunt



--- Andrew Grantham <lists@...> wrote:

> Hi.  Just take the board in the far back on the
> left, remove it and 
> replace the 14532 chips.  They're cheap, so replace
> them all.  It's a 
> $5 fix.
> 
> The Motorola MC14532BCP works great.
> 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Chris Scapelliti wrote:
> 
> >  Hi Bunt,
> >
> >  Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate your
> help and look forward 
> > to hearing how your DS1 turns out.
> >
> >  All the best,
> >
> >  Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >  bunt curtis wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> >  I recently bought that one on Ebay.
> >
> >  I will let you know what the problem was once I
> get it
> >  back from the shop.
> >
> >  ~Bunt
> >
> >
> >  --- scapmo <chris@...> wrote:
> >
> >  > The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem.
> When the
> >  > synth is first turned on, the
> >  > notes in the lowest octave sound about five and
> a
> >  > half steps lower than they should,
> >  > the notes from B-flat up through the next
> octave
> >  > sound the same pitch, and the top
> >  > octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
> >  > should, with the notes transposed
> >  > down five and a half steps.
> >  >
> >  > After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
> >  > sound correct pitches, but the
> >  > top octave still sounds three octaves lower,
> and the
> >  > pitches are transposed down five
> >  > and a half steps.
> >  >
> >  > Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?
> >  > Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay
> >  > that had a similar problem, so apparently this
> >  > problem is not unique.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks.
> >  >
> >  > Chris
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
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Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-05 by Andrew Grantham

That's why I was trying to get that DS1!  The guy selling it wouldn't 
ship to Canada, though.

On Aug 5, 2004, at 12:04 AM, bunt curtis wrote:

> Really,
>
> Is that all it is? Thanks a mil for the advice. I will
> be doing that when I get it. I will post back later!
>
> Cheers,
> Bunt
>
>
>
> --- Andrew Grantham <lists@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  Just take the board in the far back on the
>> left, remove it and
>> replace the 14532 chips.  They're cheap, so replace
>> them all.  It's a
>> $5 fix.
>>
>> The Motorola MC14532BCP works great.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Chris Scapelliti wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Bunt,
>>>
>>>  Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate your
>> help and look forward
>>> to hearing how your DS1 turns out.
>>>
>>>  All the best,
>>>
>>>  Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  bunt curtis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>  I recently bought that one on Ebay.
>>>
>>>  I will let you know what the problem was once I
>> get it
>>>  back from the shop.
>>>
>>>  ~Bunt
>>>
>>>
>>>  --- scapmo <chris@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem.
>> When the
>>>> synth is first turned on, the
>>>> notes in the lowest octave sound about five and
>> a
>>>> half steps lower than they should,
>>>> the notes from B-flat up through the next
>> octave
>>>> sound the same pitch, and the top
>>>> octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
>>>> should, with the notes transposed
>>>> down five and a half steps.
>>>>
>>>> After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
>>>> sound correct pitches, but the
>>>> top octave still sounds three octaves lower,
>> and the
>>>> pitches are transposed down five
>>>> and a half steps.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?
>>>> Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay
>>>> that had a similar problem, so apparently this
>>>> problem is not unique.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [crumar] DS1 / DS2 Question/Help Needed

2004-08-05 by Chris Scapelliti

Thanks, Andrew. You may have saved a few DS1s and DS2s from being junked.

I'll give the fix a try and report back with my findings.

All the best,

Chris



Andrew Grantham wrote:

> That's why I was trying to get that DS1! The guy selling it wouldn't
> ship to Canada, though.
>
> On Aug 5, 2004, at 12:04 AM, bunt curtis wrote:
>
> > Really,
> >
> > Is that all it is? Thanks a mil for the advice. I will
> > be doing that when I get it. I will post back later!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bunt
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Andrew Grantham <lists@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi. Just take the board in the far back on the
> >> left, remove it and
> >> replace the 14532 chips. They're cheap, so replace
> >> them all. It's a
> >> $5 fix.
> >>
> >> The Motorola MC14532BCP works great.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Chris Scapelliti wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Bunt,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate your
> >> help and look forward
> >>> to hearing how your DS1 turns out.
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bunt curtis wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>> I recently bought that one on Ebay.
> >>>
> >>> I will let you know what the problem was once I
> >> get it
> >>> back from the shop.
> >>>
> >>> ~Bunt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- scapmo <chris@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The keyboard on my DS2 has a pitch problem.
> >> When the
> >>>> synth is first turned on, the
> >>>> notes in the lowest octave sound about five and
> >> a
> >>>> half steps lower than they should,
> >>>> the notes from B-flat up through the next
> >> octave
> >>>> sound the same pitch, and the top
> >>>> octave sounds about three octaves lower than it
> >>>> should, with the notes transposed
> >>>> down five and a half steps.
> >>>>
> >>>> After about five minutes, the lower two octaves
> >>>> sound correct pitches, but the
> >>>> top octave still sounds three octaves lower,
> >> and the
> >>>> pitches are transposed down five
> >>>> and a half steps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any ideas what could be up?
> >>>> Someone recently sold a DS1 on eBay
> >>>> that had a similar problem, so apparently this
> >>>> problem is not unique.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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