Datacolor User to User Support Group.

>Hi David,
>
>That's the thing - my 'Show Edits in Preview' doesn't work like how
>you explained it. THat's why i was confused.
>
>I have unchecked it and done used the adjustment sliders and the the
>effect shows up in soft proof.

That's correct. And if you compare prints made with profiles "A" and "B",
you'll see that they'll be different as well (same difference as in the
softproof between A and B)

>I also notice that even when I uncheck
>the preview function and press 'next' it rebuilds with the print
>preview dialog box occuring.

That's also correct. Every time you click "Next" from the "Build Profile"
screen, PFP will build another profile, using the settings on from that
screen.

>So its ignoring the uncheck box and going ahead to rebuild with the
>preview thereby affecting my softproofs.

No, you've got the concept wrong. First, see above: clicking Next will ALWAYS
build another profile. The checked/unchecked state of the checkbox (along
with the slider values; and, of course, the inherent set of measurements
that are underneath everything) influence what goes into the profile.

>I'm using the latest v1.1.1 downloaded about a week ago. should
>reinstall?

No, it's behaving correctly.

Also: you have to understand that, after you've built the profile, PFP
shows you the test image, and lets you print it (to check to see the how
the profile works, without having to go into Photoshop to do so); BUT
it does not "soft-proof" the image for you. What you see in the PFP window,
after you've built a profile, is just a preview that shows you the scaling
and position of the test image on the sheet of paper. And when you change
the rendering intent in that window, yes, PFP gives you a progress dialog
and tells you that it's rebuilding the print preview (it needs to recalculate
what needs to get sent to the printer, based on your choice of rendering
intent)...

But this doesn't have anything to do, directly, with whether you checked or
unchecked "Show Edits in Preview" before you built the profile. I think
what's throwing you off here is that "Show Edits" doesn't mean "Show Edits in
Preview; while you're in PFP"; it means "Show Edits in Preview", when you're
soft-proofing an image; through the profile that you've created; in
-Photoshop-.

Or to state this another way: PFP does NOT currently show you a soft-proof
of the profiles that you build, and so, you won't see any difference in PFP's
test image, after building the profile, no matter what you set the sliders
to. It will NOT change. You need to switch into Photoshop to soft-proof
your images through any profile that you create with PFP. The test-print
functionality, after building a profile, is print-only, but NOT a soft-proof.

>ONce this is solved I should be on my way.

(nothing to solve, see above...:-)

>After drying down the prints are colder (cyanish tinge) compared to
>the warmer/more yellow soft proof. OTher than that contrast/general
>colors are spot on. I'm very near to nirvana........

That means you should also let the target prints dry down, similarly, before
you measure them, so keep that in mind.

>And yes, I'll try the smaller 256 patches next time. The 700+ patches
>seems to be quite error prone. I was lucky you were there to catch
>me. I swore i worked hard at hitting the right patches but i guess
>(sheepishly) that's what makes us humans....our mistakes.

It's possible; lots of rows, you look up at the screen, your hand moves a little
bit off, and you're measuring in the wrong place, one row too low. And then,
when you got to the end of the row and moved back to the left column, you
probably looked at the row number; repositioned the spectro (to the -correct-
row, now...!) without even giving it a 2nd thought; which is why all of the
measurements which followed are correct.

>ONce again - many thank-yous David.

You're welcome...:-)

>Looking forward to your feedback on the 'Show Edits in Preview'
>button. I think that'll complete me - it was a mental block i could
>not get around.

I think my description should get you past that last hurdle...:-)

David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
ColorVision