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--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "darrellmccombs" <darrell@...> wrote:
>
>  Actually it is my expectation that they match pretty well.  I 
> didn't buy a Profiling product to still do significant tweaks for 
> each type of type of paper I use for every different print.
......
>  I know this isn't fully automatic, but I don't want a product if 
> it requires the time you are suggesting.  Printing, measuring, 
> tweaking the print, reprinting, remeausuring, tweak the print again.
> Darrell

Hi Darrell,

You might want to give different Rendering Intents a try...ColorVision recommends 
Saturation in the Help guide.

As much as you don't like to experiment I think you need to test the best Media Type for 
Hahn Rag Bright. Even though Hahnemuhle recommends Velvet Fine Art media setting I 
have found, along with many others, that VFA media type is not the best combo with 
Epson's x800 series printers, as the shadows are blocked up big time with Hahnemuhle 
papers.

Here's a copy and paste of a test I did last year....

"I too have found media settings are fairly close to each other but I wanted to explore a 
little more. Epson's black usually comes in hard and fast, less so with the newest printers 
but I wanted to find the media setting that has smoothest black from 100% to 90%.

So I recently tested to find the "best" media setting for William Turner paper on my Epson 
4800.

I printed a ten patch gray ramp from 100% to 90% with five media settings.

My Excel results are below for William Turner on an Epson 4800:

http://homepage.mac.com/johnvito/WilliamTurnerMediaSettings.png

From 100% to 90% only two media settings show desirable linear density loss albeit 
stepped at times. While the other three actually have spiked increases in density called 
"reversals" on some patches. For example Epson's Enhanced has the same density at the 
following patches: 100%, 99% and 
97%. As you can see the 98% patch has a lower density. Another reversal at 94%.

My choice is the UltraSmooth media setting, as it has the most linear path in the shadows."

As you can tell by the chart Enhance Matte and Velvet Fine Art media settings were the 
worse offenders of blocked shadows...I'm not sure why Hahnemuhle recommended the 
VFA setting...maybe just for more deep blacks? Also note that with the VelvetFineArt media 
setting the 96% patch is darker than the 97% patch....any profiler will have a difficult time 
fixing that.

Even before a profile is built, test a little to find the best settings so the profile doesn't 
have to do any heavy or impossible lifting. Use PFP Media Setting check is my 
recommendation.

Testing prior to building a profile would have to be done with any profiler package, not 
just PFP.

Best,

John V.