Datacolor User to User Support Group.

I tend to agree with David on this. I have even made full size templates to
read all targets large , expert and regular. The thing is, I just can't beat
the accuracy

of selecting each patch on target and hitting the enter key. I know right
away if the reading is correct and it takes about 1 second for each patch. I
keep all of my targets in photographic storage bags and recheck the patches
after 10 days, you would be surprised at the difference. Using the same
thought I let all of my prints set or dry for about 1 week no matter what
the medium. What may seem to be a bit off in color or gamut will fall right
into place in a few days. I use 3 different printers (wide format pigment
and dye so I when I reorder media I re-profile each printer to the new
media) and tend to make targets all at one time and then set aside a few
hours in the evening to read targets and make profiles. The additional
finishing photo targets in Spyder 3 print really does help with corrections
and curves after reading is taken. My Epson printer seems to need the least
profile correction while the HP's and Canon's  usually need some correction.
Once you get used to the patch reading it is easy and freehand reading lets
you easily re read patch if it seems out of correct order.Aloha

 

From: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dealy663
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:50 AM
To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder3 print patch reading guide?

 

PFP and the DC spectro are indeed fine products given their price.
However, I do think that it would be worthwhile to spend some thought
cycles on how the process can be made easier.

While you David may be confident in your patch reading accuracy vs
speed, I know that there are plenty of us that aren't. I am not really
able to read one patch per second, and feel that I didn't over step an
edge somewhere along the way.

Obviously someone over there at ColorVision was thinking along those
same lines and decided to include a patch reading guide in the latest
version of the product. Maybe the current DC spectro can't be made
into a strip reader without increasing the price to something much
more like the current i1 products, I don't know. However, I do know
that you can certainly constrain the size of the patch target to a
consistent block size as long as the paper itself is of at least A4
dimensions, and therefore putting centering detents into the guide is
possible. For very little additional cost. 

I certainly would have greater confidence in the accuracy of my
readings if I knew for sure that the spectro was really centered over
every patch, and not crossing any edges.

Derek

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:colorvision_group%40yahoogroups.com> , CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 11/10/07 1:08:22 PM, psandham@... writes:
> 
> 
> > I am VERY HAPPY with the current product (DC1005) and have created
> > over 100 profiles for almost every paper on the market using the
1000 patch
> > method (Color w/BW). I'm aiming to be the first person to read 500,000
> > patches to see if I will get a prize!
> > 
> 
> You may well be the first person *outside of the ColorVision* to
reach that 
> mark, but trust, me, you won't be the first person to get there... 
<G> My 
> level of usage of our spectro is not typical of any end user, but it
does point 
> out how much easier to use the DC1005 is than any previously
available patch 
> reader... if I measured as many patches with a ColorMouse, Digital
Swatchbook, 
> ColorTron, etc... I would have seized up with carpal tunnel syndrome
long ago. 
> Even the Pulse and EyeOne, when used in patch at at time mode (as I
am often 
> required to use them) are not as easy to use as the DC1005. What it
does, it 
> does well.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor
> CDTobie@...
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> 
> 
> 
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