Greetings, everyone. I'm new to the group, and fairly new to colour management, so I'm hoping this isn't a FAQ, and that the resident experts can help me. I've had a GretagMacbeth i1Display2 for a while now. and it's gone largely unused. The primary reason for this is that I've struggled to get the software to do what I want (at least at the time); I'm wondering whether I'd have more luck with a Spyder. I have a set-up with two monitors - one a high-resolution LCD (T221) with a relatively limited gamut, and one a relatively cheap and nasty (Iiyama) CRT with a better dynamic range. I'm using XP, and (for lack of need to have upgraded) the original version of Adobe CS - mostly Photoshop, with a bit of InDesign thrown in. My output is currently an elderly Epson Photo printer, of a vintage from the last millennium, and this may eventually get an upgrade. I don't do anything commercial with any of this; it's all for personal photo printing and the occasional club magazine. The first thing I should say is that I pretty much couldn't care less about how the screen looks in non-colour managed applications (if I want to watch video and care about the cinema experience, I'll use my TV). All I care about is whether I can get a document to look right on screen (compared with what the software thinks the colours are), and getting printed output in the right ball-park (so far achieved, poorly, solely through Epson's default drivers). Regarding the LCD, I would like to set it to an appropriate brightness (the only control I have), and then produce a profile for it. Where I fell down with the i1Photo was that the Gretag software insisted on trying to calibrate the screen first - and by "calibrate", they meant "mangle the graphics card LUTs". This is perfectly sensible behaviour for a CRT, driven from 10-bit LUTs on the graphics card, where sensibly-spaced samples are useful. For a DVI connection with 8 bits per channel on the screen and 8 bits in the display, anything other than a 1:1 mapping can do nothing but harm. So, question number one: Can I use a Spyder to produce a Photoshop-friendly profile without touching the graphics card LUTs? Gretag described this as an "advanced feature" when I last spoke to them, but it seems a logically obvious thing to want to do (use a colour-managed application with an LCD? how dare I...) Secondly, as mentioned, I used two monitors, with different gamuts. This leads me to two scenarios: a) The file I'm processing is fully contained within the smaller gamut of the LCD. In this case, it would be useful for the CRT and the LCD to match (i.e. the CRT should, as much as possible for in-channel mapping, be calibrated using the graphics card LUTs - because I don't want to keep fiddling with it manually - to match the LCD, and I should be able to use the profile from the LCD). Or... b) The file I'm processing needs the expanded gamut of the CRT, and I should use the CRT's profile with it calibrated to use as large a gamut as possible (which at least means that the limits of the RGB LUTs should be at full range, no matter what this says for the intervening values and the native white point). It would be nice to be able to apply some profile which would keep the LCD correct except for the clipped colours, but I appreciate that XP's CMS doesn't support doing that, so under these circumstances I'm going to have to accept that the LCD won't be "right". I'm assuming that I'd have to switch between the scenarios manually - I'm not expecting a Photoshop plug-in to automate the process! Question two: any chance of this being easy/possible to set up? Any help would be welcome. My photos have looked a bit off for far too long. Thanks in advance, and I hope my questions make a basic kind of sense, -- Fluppeteer
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Profiling without calibration and monitor matching (newbie questions)
2008-02-13 by fluppeteer
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