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.> But if its simply sRGB, then its not a "real" display profile (it lacks
video card corrections etc) and the warning is simply telling you this.

 

C. David, I think I know what you mean and are saying here; but in case I
don't, could you elaborate for me and anyone else who may not understand
what it is you are saying with respect to this not being a "real" display
profile.

 

What I think you are suggesting is that the sRGB profile in that folder is
not an actual device profile but rather a working space profile, similar to
what Adobe RGB 1998 originally was with respect to the Photoshop editing
space.  It does not characterize a device's color space per se but defines
the default color space that the user is working in on the desktop when one
is utilizing image editing programs and other applications that do not
support color management and profiles.  Am I on base here or way off base?

 

That Vista views it as the default working color space and, thus, a system
file may mean that it cannot be deleted without engaging in a whole lot of
work-arounds to do so; but as you and I have both pointed out, it does not
mean that one cannot disassociate that file from any associations with
devices such as monitors and printers.  It also does not preclude
associating other listed profiles - appropriate or not - with particular
devices at the Vista OS level and even establishing them as the default
device profile.

 

To extend this a little, I think that part of the trouble here is that the
software developers and publishers have created some confusion by initially
speaking of and using distinctions between working color space profiles and
designations, on the one hand, and device color spaces and color profiles,
on the other hand, (sRGB and Adobe RGB 1998 among them) while later using
these same working color space ( or editing space) profiles as actual device
profiles and profile names in devices like scanners, cameras, etc. as well
as in software such as Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements, Microsoft Digital
Suite, etc.  Now whenever users see sRGB or Adobe RGB, they assume that
these are referring to device profiles on all occasions.  Similarly,
discussions of color management have become so pervasive that many beginners
and lay persons assume that all applications involved in capturing, editing,
and/or outputting as display or print inages will and do support color
management and the use of profiles when in fact this may not be the case.

 

This ios one of the reasons why I guess I am pushihg you for an elaboration.

 

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In a message dated 5/4/08 1:32:04 AM, dfinnert@... writes:



Yes, I think that is exactly what it refers to. It is apparently part
of the Vista Windows Color System (WCS) and used for displaying sRGB
files. When I try to delete the file, Windows gives me an error
message saying it is part of the system and cannot be deleted.

The problem would appear to be that it somehow got into the SpyderPro2
list of profiles associated with the monitor, and it is not an
appropriate ICC profile for the monitor, hence the SypderPro error
message. I need to get it out of the SpyderPro list somehow.


In that case, I would suggest right clicking on the desktop of that display,
working your way to the advanced display configuration settings, and in the
color settings, choosing that profile from the list, and telling it to not
associate it. But if its simply sRGB, then its not a "real" display profile
(it lacks video card corrections etc) and the warning is simply telling you
this.

C. David Tobie
WW Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3


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