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Re: New Spyder 3 Studio - Epson R1800 - Too Dark - Win XP

2009-08-13 by Rick Ryan

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Rick Ryan wrote:
> 
> > I just purchased Spyder 3 Studio and when I printed the Media  
> > Setting Test images the colors seemed very dark and the four small  
> > pictures matched the "Clogged Shadows" example in the Help Screen  
> > (actually my printed sample seem even darker than the Clogged Shadow  
> > example).  I tried various printer driver settings (yes, I properly  
> > turned off all color management in the print driver) but they didn't  
> > seem to make any noticable change.
> > I went ahead and printed the 225 sample page, let it dry for an  
> > hour  and read the samples (a great many of the little color squares  
> > were extermely dark - they looked black).  I created a profile from  
> > the sample and printed a photo from Adobe CS4 (again properly  
> > turning off color managment on the printer, letting CS4 manage color  
> > and selected the profile newly created.  The resulting printed image  
> > was darker and a little more contrasty than the same photo printed  
> > using the enhanced Epson profile - which already seemed too dark
> 
> 
> What type of paper are you using, and which black ink? What media  
> settings have you tried? Have you printed the SpyderProof images  
> directly from Spyder3Print? If so, do they show similar result to  
> Phothoshop?
> 
> Have you made brightness and contrast adjustments to your measurement  
> set, and made test prints with these profile adjustments?
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> CDTobie@...
> 
> 
> 
> Datacolor
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
>
David,
I am using Epson Premium Glossy Photo Paper and the standard Epson R1800 Inks. 
When I printed the 225 sample page all of the colors seemed much darker than the image on the screen and when in the sampling screen the "Measured" colors also looked much darker than the "Pure".
I have not yet tried printing the Softproof images from SpyderPrint3, but will try that today once I buy some more paper.  I suspect the results will be the same from SpyderPrint3 as from CS4, but I will give it a try. Is there any way to print the SpyderProof image from CS4 (is there a file(s) for the image(s) on the install disk?)?
I am trying to be methodical and based on the info in the Help on the Media Setting Quality, it seemed to imply there was something to adjust in the print driver first before making the 225 sample print.  I tried "Best Photo" and "Best Photo RPM", but didn't see much difference. I also tried reinstalling the latest R1800 drivers from Epson, just in case there was some problem there, but noticed no change.  I also tried Ultra Premium Luster as a paper type to see if that would lighten the image, but didn't see much change with that either.
I haven't tried any of the post sampling adjustments to the profile (e.g. Brightness & Contrast) yet, but will give that a try (I have to go out this morning and buy some more paper :-))
I will give that a try when I return.
Rick

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