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Re: Spyder Print - Mac OS X Mountain Lion and target printing

2012-11-30 by billhansen20012001

Have you tried to Google something like "HP 7515 turn off color management" (without the quotes). Try some combinations of that phrase. If that doesn't work, you could try to phone HP support.



--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "James R. Holtzman" <emptech@...> wrote:
>
> I'm probably not the best to answer this, but since nobody else has 
> stepped up, I'll give you my two cents worth.
> 
> I don't use a mac, but I don't think that matters here.
> 
> Spyder print s/w does not turn off the color management in your printer.
> 
> I'd be willing to bet that if you dig deep enough on your hp 7515 
> settings you will find the place to
> turn off the color management.  I don't have one setup on my 
> computer, otherwilse I'd try to find it
> for you.
> 
> Me, I am new to color management.  It all started I went to print 
> some large posters on one of my
> wide carriage printers and noticed the colors were off.  It wasn't 
> important to me since I wasn't printing
> photos, but eventually I wanted it fixed.  The first thing I learned 
> about was calibrating the monitor.  I did
> that, didn't help.  Then I took this datacolor on-line seminar, 
> probably from B&H photo.  It went on from
> there.
> 
> Color management has to be turned off in the printer properties, 
> somewhere, you may have to look hard
> to find where.  Different brands of printers will use different 
> terminology.  I understand you don't have to
> use Spyder Print to print the targets, but I think it is best to do 
> so.  I've heard they do give you the .tiff
> files that you could print with another program though.
> 
> The idea is, you want the printer to print the targets with no 
> correction at all, so the patches in the targets
> print just the raw colors.  I can't think of a better way to say 
> it.  Let's say the color to be printed is what
> you and I call red.  Say the uncorrected printer prints 
> orange.   After your test prints have dried properly,
> you scan them in with the Spyder, it can read the colors and knows 
> what to expect.  It sees that the
> expected color is not red as you and I would agree to, but it sees a 
> different color.  I think it builds up a
> lookup table, called a profile.  It does this for a bunch of 
> colors.  Once you have created a color profile
> that you have named, that profile, if created properly, and that's 
> important, will be used when you print
> future photos, etc, using a program like photoshop that knows what a 
> color profile is.
> 
> So when printing with photoshop, you leave the color correction off 
> in the printer properties, in other
> words, color is not managed in the printer but in the computer.  In 
> photoshop, you will tell it the name
> of the profile to use.  When you go to print with photoshop, it will 
> know how to correct the data going
> to the printer so it prints red instead of orange.
> 
> The problem I had where I complained that I had green blotches, there 
> was an error in my .icc files,
> my profile.  I didn't realize that until I got some help from this 
> forum.  Once I found which patches were
> read wrong, and re-scanned them, I saved to a new profile, printed 
> from there, and bingo, what I think
> is a perfect photo.
> 
> If you print with some other program, somehow you have to utilize the 
> new profiles you made, one
> for each kind of paper, ink, printer, etc.
> 
> In windoze, for example, if I were to print with their picture and 
> fax viewer, I don't know if there is a way
> to tell the printer to use my custom profiles or not, might be but I 
> haven't found where yet.  So by
> printing in that manor, I get prints that are not color corrected.
> 
> I hope I didn't tell you something you already know, hope this 
> helps.  This forum has helped me.
> 
> Jim H.
> 
> At 10:45 PM 11/28/2012, you wrote:
> >I'd like to know the correct way to print the targets.
> >
> >I understand that color management needs to be disabled when 
> >printing targets but does the Spyder Print software do that?
> >
> >Do I print them from within the Spyder Print software or from Photoshop?
> >
> >My printer, a lowly HP 7510, seems to have no way to turn off color 
> >management.
> >
> >I want to be sure that I'm printing the targets correctly and would 
> >appreciate it if someone could clear this up :).
> >
> >I'm not new to color management having used Xrite in the past but 
> >this is the first time with Datacolor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
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> James R. Holtzman
> Empirical Technology
> Carmichael, CA  95608
> (916) 487-9712
> emptech@...
> http://www.emp-tech.net
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