Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Johnny,
two things: 
Never use the word "never" and never use individual images for judging
quality!!! :)

Best,
Peter

PS
There are a lot of well made test images around the world!
Once I was in that trap too...now I'm using only a few images for judging.


--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@...>
wrote:
>
> This is the only combination of paper/ink that has not worked for me.
> I successfully have printer profiles for Costco Glossy, Epson HW
> Matte, Epson Velvet Fine Art, and Ilford Galerie Smooth Glossy. Four
> out of five is a pretty good track record in my opinion. I only tried
> the Canon Matte because of the price, and now I've decided the cost in
> time and ink far overshadows the few cents per sheet saved in paper
> cost; not even including the frustration and aggravation.
> 
> NEWS FLASH
> 
> While typing the above message I had a brain storm (cramp?) and
> realized the problem images had been made using the flash on the
> camera. So rarely do I ever use the flash, it never occurred to me
> that it would have an influence on the colors. I ACR (Adobe Camera
> Raw) recalibrated the camera output with Rags Gardner ACR Script, and
> reprinted one of the problem images and it came much better than
> before. There are no muddy colors now. The skin tone is a little too
> red for me, but I can handle that later.I photographed the Macbeth
> color checker card and used the updated camera calibration data and it
> turned out ok too. I think this paper/ink combination now will be one
> that can be used. 
> 
> CD thanks for the dialog and suggestions. 
> 
> Your now confident friend in Photography,
> 
> Johnny Eades
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> >
> > >>I've used a package of 50 sheets of Canon Matte paper in an
attempt to
> > make a printer profile for it and have come to the conclusion that it
> > is not a viable combination for me.
> > 
> > 
> > There certainly are nonoptimal combinations (ones that do not produce 
> > ideal results), and unprofilable combinations (ones that you can't 
> > produce a functional profile for), and incompatible combinations
(ones 
> > that bleed, or mottle, or refuse to dry)... I try to avoid all three, 
> > but its suprising how often users absolutely insist that they
should be 
> > able to profile a combination, no matter how ill-advised it is. I
view 
> > custom profiles as a way to make good combinations better, not
ways to 
> > make problem combinations useable... so you should start with a good 
> > combination of printer, ink, media setting, and paper.
> > 
> > C. David Tobie
> > Product Technology Manager
> > ColorVision, Inc.
> > CDTobie@
> > www.colorvision.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnny Eades <jeades1@>
> > To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:53:12 -0000
> > Subject: [colorvision_group] Uncooperative combination of paper/ink
> > 
> >     I've used a package of 50 sheets of Canon Matte paper in an
attempt 
> > to
> > make a printer profile for it and have come to the conclusion that it
> > is not a viable combination for me. I've decided to throw in the towel
> > on this project and devote my time to a battle I've got a better
> > chance of winning.
> > 
> > Your defeated friend in Photography,
> > 
> > Johnny Eades
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>