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Help!

Help!

2006-11-05 by Keith R.

I finally had some time today to try my first profile. I printed out 
the 225 target last thursday and today I started to profile it. 
Everything went fine until I came to the build profile screen. I 
followed the screen instructions and clicked to build the profile. The 
instructions said that it would take just a few seconds. After about a 
minute and a half, I ended the process per the instructions. What did 
I do wrong? I did a search on my system for the profile I made and 
named and found the following:
c:\Program Files\ColorVision\PrintFixPro\Data\Pro
and it was listed as an XML Document.
I'm going to try to remeasure the target again, but I would like to 
know what I did wrong.

Re: [colorvision_group] Help!

2006-11-05 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 11/4/06 8:16:58 PM, kjrslr@... writes:


I finally had some time today to try my first profile. I printed out
the 225 target last thursday and today I started to profile it.
Everything went fine until I came to the build profile screen. I
followed the screen instructions and clicked to build the profile. The
instructions said that it would take just a few seconds. After about a
minute and a half, I ended the process per the instructions. What did
I do wrong? I did a search on my system for the profile I made and
named and found the following:
c:\Program Files\ColorVision\PrintFixPro\Data\Pro
and it was listed as an XML Document.
I'm going to try to remeasure the target again, but I would like to
know what I did wrong.



Sounds to me like there were some incorrect measurements in there, if it tried for that long to find matches for them. Measure again, check that the pattern is right, no incorrect rows or patches, and try building again.


C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com

Re: Help!

2006-11-05 by Keith R.

> Sounds to me like there were some incorrect measurements in there, 
if it 
> tried for that long to find matches for them. Measure again, check 
that the 
> pattern is right, no incorrect rows or patches, and try building 
again.
> 
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Division
> DataColor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>

I remeasured the target, and everything went fine. However, I then 
printed the provided test image, doing the four quadrant method and 
changing the rendering intents for each image. Each of the images 
states a different intent, i.e. saturation, percetual, etc. All four 
images look identical in color, tone, saturation, etc. Is this 
correct?

RE: [colorvision_group] Re: Help!

2006-11-05 by Mike Johnson

I remeasured the target, and everything went fine. However, I then
printed the provided test image, doing the four quadrant method and
changing the rendering intents for each image. Each of the images
states a different intent, i.e. saturation, percetual, etc. All four
images look identical in color, tone, saturation, etc. Is this
correct?


I think it depends on how good your ink and paper are; the better they are
the smaller the difference.

Absolute Colorimeteric has a different white point to the others, so the
light tones may look blue compared to the other 3, but it depends on how
yellow your paper is.

The 2 Colorimeteric intents assume infinite brightness range, so shadow
detail may be lost. Saturation and Perceptual assume a limited brightness
range which should preserve the shadow detail. On the full photodisc image
the top right has lots of dark objects, but its not printed by PrintFIX PRO.
There is a dark object below the hand, an elephant, I can see slightly more
detail in the Perceptual and Saturation prints.

I think I can see a slight difference in colour of the leather case between
Saturation and Perceptual, but its not significant. On the full photodisc
image I can see a difference in the colour of the printed circuit board.

Mike

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Help!

2006-11-06 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 11/5/06 1:12:12 PM, kjrslr@... writes:


I remeasured the target, and everything went fine.

Glad to hear you found your error.

However, I then
printed the provided test image, doing the four quadrant method and
changing the rendering intents for each image. Each of the images
states a different intent, i.e. saturation, percetual, etc. All four
images look identical in color, tone, saturation, etc. Is this
correct?

Given that the image in question is within the gamut of many printer/ink/paper combination (especially gloss and luster media on inkjets), there is, appropriately, no difference. If there are out of gamut colors, then the mechanism for bringing them into gamut will vary. The greater the gamut-gap, the more distinct the differing rendering intents will be.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com

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