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R3800 Doubt

R3800 Doubt

2007-04-06 by Michele Berti

I print mostly in color but I'd like to print B&W as well, this is the
reason I'd like getting the 3800. I already own PFP and using it with
satisfaction to create profiles for the R1800 I currently own. In my
understand the R3800 has a build-in ABW feature specifically designed
for Black and White printing. Will PFP be compatible with this
feature? Or should I keep printing in standard color mode?

Re: [colorvision_group] R3800 Doubt

2007-04-06 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 4/6/07 4:52:28 AM, michele@... writes:


I print mostly in color but I'd like to print B&W as well, this is the
reason I'd like getting the 3800. I already own PFP and using it with
satisfaction to create profiles for the R1800 I currently own. In my
understand the R3800 has a build-in ABW feature specifically designed
for Black and White printing. Will PFP be compatible with this
feature? Or should I keep printing in standard color mode?


The B&W printing capabilities of PFP2 on the 3800, and other two-gray printers, is based on printing in Color mode, not AWB mode. You build an extended profile (incorporating the 238 patch extended grays target), then print grayscale or neutralized RGB images to it for neutral B&W. For tinted B&W you do the same, with tinted RGB images, or build tints and crosstints into a special version of the profile to tint neutral RGB or grayscale images.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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Re: R3800 Doubt

2007-04-07 by Michele Berti

Does it mean that printing in color mode the printer will be using all
the colored inks? Or just the blak and grey ones? 

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 4/6/07 4:52:28 AM, michele@... writes:
> 
> 
> > I print mostly in color but I'd like to print B&W as well, this is the
> > reason I'd like getting the 3800. I already own PFP and using it with
> > satisfaction to create profiles for the R1800 I currently own. In my
> > understand the R3800 has a build-in ABW feature specifically designed
> > for Black and White printing. Will PFP be compatible with this
> > feature? Or should I keep printing in standard color mode?
> > 
> 
> The B&W printing capabilities of PFP2 on the 3800, and other two-gray 
> printers, is based on printing in Color mode, not AWB mode. You
build an extended 
> profile (incorporating the 238 patch extended grays target), then
print grayscale 
> or neutralized RGB images to it for neutral B&W. For tinted B&W you
do the 
> same, with tinted RGB images, or build tints and crosstints into a
special 
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> version of the profile to tint neutral RGB or grayscale images.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
> 
> 
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> http://www.aol.com.
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[colorvision_group] Re: R3800 Doubt

2007-04-07 by David Miller

>Does it mean that printing in color mode the printer will be using all
>the colored inks? Or just the blak and grey ones?
>

This ends up being determined by the printer driver, but yes: since you're
printing in RGB mode, not Advanced B&W mode, you will be getting some colored
inks mixed in with the black and gray.

-- 
David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
ColorVision

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: R3800 Doubt

2007-04-07 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 4/7/07 11:45:53 AM, michele@... writes:


Does it mean that printing in color mode the printer will be using all
the colored inks? Or just the blak and grey ones?


The only way to assure neutrality on different papers is to use the colored inks. Printing gray only, offers a fixed result thats pretty well guaranteed not to be gray, and to be a different tone on each paper. So yes, printing in color mode, very desirably, uses color inks. Printing in AWB mode uses color inks too...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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