Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Ok, I've read over both Keith's info and other posts on the 'groups'.  I've managed to create 
'softproofs' for QTR - very neat!  Now I'd like to try and create an actual icc profile for the 
printer.

If I'm reading things correctly one basically:

a) prints out the 21-step gray scale

b) take LAB readings of the printed gray scale

c) 'drag-n-drop' a tab delimited txt file to the 'Create-QTR-ICC' applet and use the resulting 
icc file?

Ok, a 'dumb' question - for the intial 21-step gray scale printout what 'settings' should be 
used in PS and the print driver.  I assume set PS to Gray 2.2 and No Color Correction.  My 
confusion is what to use for the printer settings.  Should then be set to use the 'default' 
settings for the paper in use (ie. on the 2200 EEM paper, auto colour, etc) or?

> Ok, a 'dumb' question - for the intial 21-step gray scale printout what 'settings' should be 
> used in PS and the print driver.  I assume set PS to Gray 2.2 and No Color Correction.  My 
> confusion is what to use for the printer settings.  Should then be set to use the 'default' 
> settings for the paper in use (ie. on the 2200 EEM paper, auto colour, etc) or?

Hi

When I did the test prints for the article, I opened the supplied tiff as is (ie not colour 
managed in any way and no profiles assumed or assigned),  and printed it with whatever 
settings I was using in the driver.  For the K80 it was 'normal greyscale' and the 1290 it was 
'black only' 1440. The whole point is that the driver settings you use for actual printing (with 
the new profile) are the same that you used to create it.

However... If you are using a 2200 with EEM, then why are you not printing via QTR itself? - 
there are curves available for just this combination, and it's a perfect use for QTR. Printing via 
the Epson driver and a luminance icc profile is probably not likely to give as good B/W as QTR

bye for now
Keith Cooper

Keith, thanks for the added info.  Sounds like I was trying to make things more difficult 
than was needed.  My main reason for all this started when, after I calibrated my monitor 
with Sypder2, my qtr prints still didn't match what I was seeing on the 'screen'.  The prints 
always have a lot more shadow detail.  Hopefully softproofing with PFP will solve me 
problem?  Otherwise I'm quite happy with the 2200/QTR combination.

Cheers,
Roger...

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Cooper" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
>
> > Ok, a 'dumb' question - for the intial 21-step gray scale printout what 'settings' 
should be 
> > used in PS and the print driver.  I assume set PS to Gray 2.2 and No Color Correction.  
My 
> > confusion is what to use for the printer settings.  Should then be set to use the 
'default' 
> > settings for the paper in use (ie. on the 2200 EEM paper, auto colour, etc) or?
> 
> Hi
> 
> When I did the test prints for the article, I opened the supplied tiff as is (ie not colour 
> managed in any way and no profiles assumed or assigned),  and printed it with whatever 
> settings I was using in the driver.  For the K80 it was 'normal greyscale' and the 1290 it 
was 
> 'black only' 1440. The whole point is that the driver settings you use for actual printing 
(with 
> the new profile) are the same that you used to create it.
> 
> However... If you are using a 2200 with EEM, then why are you not printing via QTR 
itself? - 
> there are curves available for just this combination, and it's a perfect use for QTR. 
Printing via 
> the Epson driver and a luminance icc profile is probably not likely to give as good B/W 
as QTR

> 
> bye for now
> Keith Cooper
>