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Tag or not to Tag?

Tag or not to Tag?

2008-05-05 by rschoner

Hi,

When printing, proofing and evaluating images should they be "Tagged"?  
I notice that your test images are untagged so I get a warning when I 
open them in PhotoShop for Proofing. Other test images that I have are 
tagged with Adobe RGB or sRGB or something. Tagging your images or 
untagging the other images changes the proofing and printing results. 
So should I tag or not (I guess I'm really not very clear what a tag 
does for/to an image)?

Thanks,

Bob Schoner

RE: [colorvision_group] Tag or not to Tag?

2008-05-05 by LAURIE

If I understand the question correctly, "tagging" an image file with a
profile results in embedding a color profile with or in the image file; thus
the profile that is embedded travels with the image file and becomes the
profile that the image editing application (if it supports color management)
will default to.  If a file is not tagged, then the image editing program
will warn the user and ask them if they want to use the image editing
programs default working color space (i.e., editing color space) as the
color space profile or  if the user wants to convert or assign another color
space profile to the file.  The color profile that one selects determines
the characteristics of the color space that is used including the shape,
range, and nature of the color gamut available for viewing, editing, and
other functions depending on the choices the user makes.

 

By proofing an image, I am assuming that you are referring to merely
previewing the image in the image file and not to what is called "soft
proofing" of the image, which enables one to simulate in RGB color space
what a printed CYMK image would look like and what areas of the image might
be out of the printer's color gamut.  I further think that one needs to
understand the difference between "assigning" a profile to a file and
"converting" an image file to a profile; they are two separate and
distinctly different things.  I will not go into a discussion since there is
much written on this already; but I will refer you to the following link for
a brief readable descriptive explanation:
http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/color-management-converting-assigni
ng.html.
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Hi,

When printing, proofing and evaluating images should they be "Tagged"? 
I notice that your test images are untagged so I get a warning when I 
open them in PhotoShop for Proofing. Other test images that I have are 
tagged with Adobe RGB or sRGB or something. Tagging your images or 
untagging the other images changes the proofing and printing results. 
So should I tag or not (I guess I'm really not very clear what a tag 
does for/to an image)?

Thanks,

Bob Schoner

Re: [colorvision_group] Tag or not to Tag?

2008-05-05 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 5/5/08 8:03:23 AM, rschoner@... writes:


When printing, proofing and evaluating images should they be "Tagged"?

Tagged...

I notice that your test images are untagged so I get a warning when I
open them in PhotoShop for Proofing.


That is for internal purposes. If you wish to use our test images in Photoshop, copy the test image folder to another location, and open each of the images in the new folder in AdobeRGB. Save them as tagged AdobeRGB Tiffs (to avoid a second generation of Jpeg compression). We put a copy of the overall image Matrix into the test image folder, properly tagged. Its best not to fool with the test images buried deeper in our software, as any changes you might inadvertantly make to them will effect SpyderProof or could cause error conditions in the software.

Other test images that I have are
tagged with Adobe RGB or sRGB or something. Tagging your images or
untagging the other images changes the proofing and printing results.
So should I tag or not (I guess I'm really not very clear what a tag
does for/to an image)?

Tagging properly produces the same result as assuming the correct tag, by having that as the default RGB workingspace when opening the files; which in this case would be AdobeRGB.

C. David Tobie
WW Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3




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