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Advice on notebooks

Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by nittfagm821

For some time I've been working only with a CRT that I've been
profiling with a Gretag i1 display, and with the PFP Suite purchase
I'll be switching to the Spyder2. I'm also considering replacing my
desktop system with a notebook, that I'll also need to profile with
the Spyder2.  Is there anything to look out for with regard to
notebook displays? Many manufacturers list various extra-bright
display versions -- are these harder/easier to profile/calibrate? Are
some notebook graphics interfaces (intel/via/sis/ati/nvidia)
harder/easier/impossible to calibrate with the Spyder2?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Re: Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "nittfagm821"
<nittfagm821@...> wrote:
>
> For some time I've been working only with a CRT that I've been
> profiling with a Gretag i1 display, and with the PFP Suite purchase
> I'll be switching to the Spyder2. I'm also considering replacing my
> desktop system with a notebook, that I'll also need to profile with
> the Spyder2.  Is there anything to look out for with regard to
> notebook displays? Many manufacturers list various extra-bright
> display versions -- are these harder/easier to profile/calibrate? Are
> some notebook graphics interfaces (intel/via/sis/ati/nvidia)
> harder/easier/impossible to calibrate with the Spyder2?
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>

I've calibrated the display on my HP zv6000 (thats one with a
super-bright screen).  There is no place on the laptop to adjust the
gains for the three channels and I wanted a 6500K whitepoint.  Because
the display is a bit non-linear I end up loosing the use of some
colors (something like 100 or so).
For ease of use ... its just the same.  Plunk the Spyder2 on the
screen and let it go.  If you want to keep as many colors as possible
you can ask it to use a "native" whitepoint.  
Appearance wise because the screen is super bright a lot of the
pictures take on that same gem-like quality you get with slides.  Its
very nice for viewing but makes it a little harder to judge how things
will look printed (since brighter displays *seem* more colorful even
though they literaly have the same level of saturation).

Re: [colorvision_group] Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/16/06 5:56:55 AM, nittfagm821@... writes:


For some time I've been working only with a CRT that I've been
profiling with a Gretag i1 display, and with the PFP Suite purchase
I'll be switching to the Spyder2. I'm also considering replacing my
desktop system with a notebook, that I'll also need to profile with
the Spyder2. Is there anything to look out for with regard to
notebook displays? Many manufacturers list various extra-bright
display versions -- are these harder/easier to profile/calibrate? Are
some notebook graphics interfaces (intel/via/sis/ati/nvidia)
harder/easier/impossible to calibrate with the Spyder2?


The easiest solution is a Mac Powerbook; good, bright calibratable screen, with full dual display calibration and profiling support. On the Windows side things vary considerably, and user will have to report their results with assorted models. Some are simply not fit for serious color imaging, others are fine. ColorVision uses Dell PC laptops, which offer quite reasonable screens.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

Re: Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:

> The easiest solution is a Mac Powerbook; good, bright calibratable
screen, 
> with full dual display calibration and profiling support. On the
Windows side 
> things vary considerably, and user will have to report their results
with 
> assorted models. Some are simply not fit for serious color imaging,
others are fine. 
> ColorVision uses Dell PC laptops, which offer quite reasonable screens.
> 

What would be considered good stats for a LCD screen?  I realize this
is a loaded question .. sorry.  Actually the part that annoys me most
about the laptop I have now is *NOT* being able to adjust the gain on
the three channels.  Can you do that externaly or internaly on the Mac
laptops?

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/16/06 10:06:54 AM, ttrostel@... writes:


What would be considered good stats for a LCD screen? I realize this
is a loaded question .. sorry. Actually the part that annoys me most
about the laptop I have now is *NOT* being able to adjust the gain on
the three channels. Can you do that externaly or internaly on the Mac
laptops?


I've never seen a laptop that allowed this...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

Re: Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:

> 
> I've never seen a laptop that allowed this...
>

Yes ... but are they hardware calibrated at all in the factory when
they are manufactured?  Its sure to vary from vendor to vendor but
they probably don't take the time to adjust each one individualy.

Thats one of the drawbacks to laptop design it seems.

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Advice on notebooks

2006-03-16 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/16/06 10:24:10 AM, ttrostel@... writes:


Yes ... but are they hardware calibrated at all in the factory when
they are manufactured? Its sure to vary from vendor to vendor but
they probably don't take the time to adjust each one individualy.

Thats one of the drawbacks to laptop design it seems.


PowerBooks have a reasonable, and reasonably consistant, native whitepoint. Given that you are not usually trying to match luminance and white tone to other monitors, calibrating them at native whitepoint is all that is usually necessary. Other brands vary. The new MacBooks are even brighter than the more recent, brighter, PowerBooks, so it may well be possible to run them at matching luminance to desktop systems. Probably the simplest way to do that will be to calibrate the MacBook at Native, see what that is, target it, and calibrate the other screens to match the MacBook's native whitepoint (color of white) and white luminance (screen brightness)...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

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