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2010-08-29 by bill_hansen20012001
For those of us who have apparently fallen out of the loop, what is SpyderCheckr, and where can we find more info about it? The name makes it sound interesting, but if there's info on the DataColor site, I've missed it. Bill Hansen
2010-08-29 by Cdtobie
For those of us who have apparently fallen out of the loop, what is SpyderCheckr, and where can we find more info about it?
2010-09-02 by Rick Ryan
Looks like SpyderLensCal has been announced. Any additional info besides what is on your website? Rick
2010-09-02 by C D Tobie
>>Looks like SpyderLensCal has been announced. Any additional info besides what is on your website? Well, there's a Reviewer's Guide, if you will be reviewing it; but I've been doing a second build of the Reviewers Guides these days, with a few marketing related or review specific items removed, as a User's Guide. That version should already be linked from the website. The other stuff I've written has been FAQs... Those may or may not be linked to the website yet; but they will certainly be up in the near future, typically in three languages. It's the translations that slow them down a bit. But if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging and Home Theater Datacolor inc. cdtobie@... www.datacolor.com On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "Rick Ryan" <rmryan@...> wrote: > Looks like SpyderLensCal has been announced. Any additional info besides what is on your website?
2010-09-02 by Vampire D
>>Looks like SpyderLensCal has been announced. Any additional info besides what is on your website?
Well, there's a Reviewer's Guide, if you will be reviewing it; but I've been doing a second build of the Reviewers Guides these days, with a few marketing related or review specific items removed, as a User';s Guide. That version should already be linked from the website. The other stuff I've written has been FAQs... Those may or may not be linked to the website yet; but they will certainly be up in the near future, typically in three languages. It's the translations that slow them down a bit.But if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.C. David TobieGlobal Product Technology ManagerDigital Imaging and Home TheaterDatacolor inc.Looks like SpyderLensCal has been announced. Any additional info besides what is on your website?
2010-09-02 by C D Tobie
On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Vampire D wrote: > I would be curious how it compares against the lensAlign. I have been looking at a LensAlign and thinking about getting one to test my lenses. The design of SpyderLensCal is very similar to LensAlign, as is obvious by looking at them. The differences are that LensAlign is a small production product using stock parts such as the ruler, and more metal components, resulting in a higher cost. While SpyderLensCal is designed specifically to be produced in resin in our factory, so it can be built more affordably. There are some modest advantages to our product, such as easily folding flat, and having a bubble level built in. The key advantage to the LensAlign products would be a longer rulers, though I've yet to "run out of ruler" with LensCal. A camera and lens that have been carefully calibrated with one product are in the same alignment as ones calibrated with the other, so the cost and convenience factors would seem to be the key items. C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater CDTobie@...
2010-09-02 by Bob Frost
Do the scale markings on the SpyderLensCal correspond to the units of correction in any of the cameras, or do you and they all use different units? Bob Frost. -------------------------------------------------- From: "C D Tobie" <CDTobie@...>
2010-09-02 by Vampire D
[Attachment(s) from C D Tobie included below]
On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Vampire D wrote:
> I would be curious how it compares against the lensAlign. I have been looking at a LensAlign and thinking about getting one to test my lenses.
The design of SpyderLensCal is very similar to LensAlign, as is obvious by looking at them. The differences are that LensAlign is a small production product using stock parts such as the ruler, and more metal components, resulting in a higher cost. While SpyderLensCal is designed specifically to be produced in resin in our factory, so it can be built more affordably. There are some modest advantages to our product, such as easily folding flat, and having a bubble level built in. The key advantage to the LensAlign products would be a longer rulers, though I've yet to "run out of ruler" with LensCal.
A camera and lens that have been carefully calibrated with one product are in the same alignment as ones calibrated with the other, so the cost and convenience factors would seem to be the key items.
C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...
Datacolor
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
2010-09-02 by Vampire D
Do the scale markings on the SpyderLensCal correspond to the units of
correction in any of the cameras, or do you and they all use different
units?
Bob Frost.
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From: "C D Tobie" <CDTobie@...>
2010-09-02 by C D Tobie
On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Vampire D wrote: > What about durability? I know the pro version of the LensAlign is suppose to be considerably more durable. From the forums I participate in on Photography, I have seen a few people mention about needing the longer ruler for some lenses, but I suspect it is a very small minority. Durability... well, we designed it to be as durable as we reasonably could; the decals that provide the lens target and ruler ruled lines are probably the weakest elements, and they are pretty durable. And we chose them over less exacting, but more durable direct printing methods because they offer a degree of precision and sharpness otherwise unavailable. To see about longer ruler functions, I put a 24" steel rule on top of the ruler built into LensCal, and held it in place with a couple of rubber bands. Not elegant, but it served the purpose. But I was surprised to see how much less effective the finely ruled lines on the steel rule were at detecting the focal zone than the extra fine high contrast lines printed on the LensCal rule. So I wouldn't actually trade the extra fine, extra sharp high contrast printing for some other type of solution. > > It looks interesting, it has been on my list of things to do for a while now. > Can you send me the reviewers guide so I can have a look at that, or point me to where I can find it. If you have a publication or website that you are assigned to review it for, contact me off list with that information. We don't distribute the reviewer's guide publicly, as it has URLs for downloading photos and marketing materials not publicly available. Sorry! C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater CDTobie@...
2010-09-02 by C D Tobie
On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Bob Frost wrote: > Do the scale markings on the SpyderLensCal correspond to the units of > correction in any of the cameras, or do you and they all use different > units? Making the units correspond to all makes of focus adjustment software would be impossible, and thats just one of the reasons. So the answer is no... you'll have to adjust accordingly, in a relative manner. C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater CDTobie@...
2010-09-02 by Vampire D
[Attachment(s) from C D Tobie included below]Durability... well, we designed it to be as durable as we reasonably could; the decals that provide the lens target and ruler ruled lines are probably the weakest elements, and they are pretty durable. And we chose them over less exacting, but more durable direct printing methods because they offer a degree of precision and sharpness otherwise unavailable.
On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Vampire D wrote:
> What about durability? I know the pro version of the LensAlign is suppose to be considerably more durable. From the forums I participate in on Photography, I have seen a few people mention about needing the longer ruler for some lenses, but I suspect it is a very small minority.
To see about longer ruler functions, I put a 24" steel rule on top of the ruler built into LensCal, and held it in place with a couple of rubber bands. Not elegant, but it served the purpose. But I was surprised to see how much less effective the finely ruled lines on the steel rule were at detecting the focal zone than the extra fine high contrast lines printed on the LensCal rule. So I wouldn't actually trade the extra fine, extra sharp high contrast printing for some other type of solution.If you have a publication or website that you are assigned to review it for, contact me off list with that information. We don't distribute the reviewer's guide publicly, as it has URLs for downloading photos and marketing materials not publicly available. Sorry!
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> It looks interesting, it has been on my list of things to do for a while now.
> Can you send me the reviewers guide so I can have a look at that, or point me to where I can find it.
Datacolor
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
2010-09-02 by C D Tobie
On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Vampire D wrote: > No I do not, I thought it was a third party review about the product :). Reviews will start to show up on the web in a week or two, several weeks later in paper magazines. C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater CDTobie@...