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Coming back to Spyder Print, I've forgotten -

Coming back to Spyder Print, I've forgotten -

2014-12-09 by billhansen2008@...

I've been away from Spyder Print 3 for quite a few months. Today I made my first try at a printer profile using SpyderPRINT version 4.2.3 library veriosn 185. Monitor is calibrated recently using Spyder3 Pro version 3.0.1.


Target was printed on Epson Premium Photo Paper Luster, using the new EZ High Quality 225 patch target. The printer was an Epson Artisan 1430. The correct paper was selected, and ICM was OFF (no color management).


A print from the unedited version of the resulting printer profile was far too contrasty, and far too "orange".


I don't think this is due to a bad Spectro, unless the Spectro has gotten out of adjustment somehow (it has been kept in bubble wrap along with the calibration tile - pretty well protected). My Spectro has made decent printer profiles in the past.


Using the Advanced Editing feature of SpyderPRINT, I moved the contrast way down to minus 8, and moved the brightness way up to plus 5, added some cyan and some blue. The next print was identical to the first - no change at all!


I think I've forgotten something about how to save the results of the Advanced Editing. Can someone walk me through that?


Thanks - Bill Hansen

Re: [datacolor_group] Coming back to Spyder Print, I've forgotten -

2014-12-10 by Cdtobie

Hi Bill,

I am no longer with Datacolor, so won't be monitoring this list for questions. But saving edits is not the best approach here. You are most likely printing your targets at incorrect settings. Dave Miller may be willing to walk you through the best settings for your printer and OS. 

C. David Tobie
Blog: cdtobie.wordpress.com
Site: cdtobie.com
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> On Dec 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, billhansen2008@... [datacolor_group] <datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I've been away from Spyder Print 3 for quite a few months. Today I made my first try at a printer profile using SpyderPRINT version 4.2.3 library veriosn 185. Monitor is calibrated recently using Spyder3 Pro version 3.0.1.
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> Target was printed on Epson Premium Photo Paper Luster, using the new EZ High Quality 225 patch target. The printer was an Epson Artisan 1430. The correct paper was selected, and ICM was OFF (no color management).
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> A print from the unedited version of the resulting printer profile was far too contrasty, and far too "orange".
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> I don't think this is due to a bad Spectro, unless the Spectro has gotten out of adjustment somehow (it has been kept in bubble wrap along with the calibration tile - pretty well protected). My Spectro has made decent printer profiles in the past.
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> Using the Advanced Editing feature of SpyderPRINT, I moved the contrast way down to minus 8, and moved the brightness way up to plus 5, added some cyan and some blue. The next print was identical to the first - no change at all!
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> I think I've forgotten something about how to save the results of the Advanced Editing. Can someone walk me through that?
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> Thanks - Bill Hansen
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Re: [datacolor_group] Coming back to Spyder Print, I've forgotten -

2014-12-10 by billhansen2008@...

CD - Many thanks for your reply. Stumbling around, I discovered what I was doing incorrectly, and I think I'm okay now, and the target is okay too. When I did the Advanced Edit, I had forgotten that there was a little three step process necessary to apply the corrections. I simply wasn't applying the corrections I had made to the target.


You've been a great help to me in the past, and to many others. All of use who use Spyder3Pro and SpyderPRINT will miss you greatly. I hope that wherever you are now, you're in a place which is comfortable and satisfying to you.


Bill Hansen

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---In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, <CDTobie@...> wrote :

Hi Bill,

I am no longer with Datacolor, so won't be monitoring this list for questions. But saving edits is not the best approach here. You are most likely printing your targets at incorrect settings. Dave Miller may be willing to walk you through the best settings for your printer and OS.

C. David Tobie

On Dec 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, billhansen2008@... [datacolor_group] <datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I've been away from Spyder Print 3 for quite a few months. Today I made my first try at a printer profile using SpyderPRINT version 4.2.3 library veriosn 185. Monitor is calibrated recently using Spyder3 Pro version 3.0.1.


Target was printed on Epson Premium Photo Paper Luster, using the new EZ High Quality 225 patch target. The printer was an Epson Artisan 1430. The correct paper was selected, and ICM was OFF (no color management).


A print from the unedited version of the resulting printer profile was far too contrasty, and far too "orange".


I don't think this is due to a bad Spectro, unless the Spectro has gotten out of adjustment somehow (it has been kept in bubble wrap along with the calibration tile - pretty well protected). My Spectro has made decent printer profiles in the past.


Using the Advanced Editing feature of SpyderPRINT, I moved the contrast way down to minus 8, and moved the brightness way up to plus 5, added some cyan and some blue. The next print was identical to the first - no change at all!


I think I've forgotten something about how to save the results of the Advanced Editing. Can someone walk me through that?


Thanks - Bill Hansen

Re: [datacolor_group] Coming back to Spyder Print, I've forgotten -

2014-12-10 by David Miller

Bill,

The most likely problem is that you printed the target incorrectly. When that happens, no matter
what you do afterwards, nothing will give you good results.

Email me privately at dmiller@... and I can go over your target print and measurements,
and help you figure it out. :-)

Best regards,

David Miller
Senior R&D, Datacolor


On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Cdtobie CDTobie@... [datacolor_group] <datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi Bill,

I am no longer with Datacolor, so won't be monitoring this list for questions. But saving edits is not the best approach here. You are most likely printing your targets at incorrect settings. Dave Miller may be willing to walk you through the best settings for your printer and OS.

C. David Tobie

On Dec 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, billhansen2008@... [datacolor_group] <datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I've been away from Spyder Print 3 for quite a few months. Today I made my first try at a printer profile using SpyderPRINT version 4.2.3 library veriosn 185. Monitor is calibrated recently using Spyder3 Pro version 3.0.1.


Target was printed on Epson Premium Photo Paper Luster, using the new EZ High Quality 225 patch target. The printer was an Epson Artisan 1430. The correct paper was selected, and ICM was OFF (no color management).


A print from the unedited version of the resulting printer profile was far too contrasty, and far too "orange".


I don't think this is due to a bad Spectro, unless the Spectro has gotten out of adjustment somehow (it has been kept in bubble wrap along with the calibration tile - pretty well protected). My Spectro has made decent printer profiles in the past.


Using the Advanced Editing feature of SpyderPRINT, I moved the contrast way down to minus 8, and moved the brightness way up to plus 5, added some cyan and some blue. The next print was identical to the first - no change at all!


I think I've forgotten something about how to save the results of the Advanced Editing. Can someone walk me through that?


Thanks - Bill Hansen




David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor

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