Disklavier

Good morning, everyone.

Prior to the Mark II, the Disklavier did not respond to MIDI volume commands. For older instruments, you need to reduce the note-on velocities of the notes in order to make playback softer.

I have not experimented with the volume control feature of Sweet MIDI Player on the iPad. If it globally reduces the note-on velocities, then the Wagon Grand will play softer. If, instead, it sends out Controller 7 messages (MIDI volume) or Controller 11 messages (MIDI Expression, which is functionally similar to MIDI Volume), then there will be no difference in playback on a Wagon Grand.

Starting with the Mark II, the Disklavier has been responsive to controller 7 and, by default, expects controller 7 to be set to 100. Some MIDI files that you find on the Internet both set controller 7 to 127 for the piano track (the highest setting) and use very high note-on velocities. This combination results in an excruciatingly loud sound.

Regards,
PianoBench

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Robby rclerk@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> 
> Adam, 
> Try using the slider volume control at the top right on your SweetMIDI iPad screen. It increases/decreases volume on my Mark III in real time just fine. I don't know if the Wagon responds the same way.
> R Clerk
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:20 AM, disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > There are 5 messages in this issue.
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> > Topics in this digest:
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> > 1a. Re: Connecting piano to ipad  
> > From: thelazer1
> > 1b. Re: Connecting piano to ipad  
> > From: Bill Brandom
> > 1c. Re: Connecting piano to ipad  
> > From: thelazer1
> > 1d. Re: Connecting piano to ipad  
> > From: Bill Brandom
> > 1e. Re: Connecting piano to ipad  
> > From: George Frederick Litterst
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> > Messages
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> > 1a. Re: Connecting piano to ipad
> > Posted by:  thelazer1@... <mailto:thelazer1@...> thelazer1
> > Date: Wed Mar 2, 2016 9:46 am ((PST))
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > I am new to this forum but got my Grand Wagon Disklavier working with an iphone 5s/Sweet MIDI and the Quicco sound mi.2. 
> > 
> > 
> > I am running in to an issue where every note is played as hard as possible by the piano.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know if this is a source file (the MIDI file) or and issue with the software.
> > 
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > 
> > Adam
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> > Messages in this topic (8)
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 1b. Re: Connecting piano to ipad
> > Posted by: "Bill Brandom" bill.brandom03@... <mailto:bill.brandom03@gmail.com> billbrandom
> > Date: Wed Mar 2, 2016 9:54 am ((PST))
> > 
> > Disconnect your MIDI cables from the wagon. Can you record and playback using a floppy in the wagon?
> > 
> > Bill
> > Love God. Love People. Make a difference.
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:44 AM, thelazer1@... <mailto:thelazer1@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > I am new to this forum but got my Grand Wagon Disklavier working with an iphone 5s/Sweet MIDI and the Quicco sound mi.2. 
> > 
> > I am running in to an issue where every note is played as hard as possible by the piano.
> > 
> > I don't know if this is a source file (the MIDI file) or and issue with the software.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Messages in this topic (8)
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 1c. Re: Connecting piano to ipad
> > Posted by:  thelazer1@yahoo.com <mailto:thelazer1@...> thelazer1
> > Date: Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:20 am ((PST))
> > 
> > Hi Bill, 
> > 
> > I don't think I have any floppies to record to.
> > 
> > 
> > My brother-in-law used to record with the system and had no issues.
> > 
> > 
> > Playback is fine with any of the Disklavier floppies I have.
> > 
> > 
> > I may try and get a USB-MIDI and play through a laptop to see if the MIDI file is the issue.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Messages in this topic (8)
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 1d. Re: Connecting piano to ipad
> > Posted by: "Bill Brandom" billbrando@... <mailto:billbrando@...> billbrandom03@... <mailto:billbrandom03@...>
> > Date: Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:26 am ((PST))
> > 
> > Adam,
> > 
> > If your pre-recorded floppies play fine internally, then try removing the cable from the MIDI IN of the wagon, then try playing to the piano from the computer.
> > 
> > Bill
> > Love God. Love People. Make a difference.
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 2, 2016, at 10:03 AM, thelazer1@... <mailto:thelazer1@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@...m>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Bill,
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think I have any floppies to record to.
> > 
> > My brother-in-law used to record with the system and had no issues.
> > 
> > Playback is fine with any of the Disklavier floppies I have.
> > 
> > I may try and get a USB-MIDI and play through a laptop to see if the MIDI file is the issue.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Messages in this topic (8)
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 1e. Re: Connecting piano to ipad
> > Posted by: "George Frederick Litterst" PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> pianobench2000
> > Date: Wed Mar 2, 2016 3:36 pm ((PST))
> > 
> > Good evening, everyone.
> > 
> > Adam, are you able to look at the MIDI data in a sequencer? If so, how high do the note-on velocities go?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> > 
> > 
> >> On Mar 2, 2016, at 1:03 PM, thelazer1@... <mailto:thelazer1@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Bill,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I don't think I have any floppies to record to.
> >> 
> >> My brother-in-law used to record with the system and had no issues.
> >> 
> >> Playback is fine with any of the Disklavier floppies I have.
> >> 
> >> I may try and get a USB-MIDI and play through a laptop to see if the MIDI file is the issue.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.
> >> 
> >> Adam
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