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Re[2]: [disklavier] Free Pianosoft Classical files 2017 e-piano competition

2017-10-14 by Spencer Chase


good to hear that you found a way to deal with the XP data in files. the editor from Zenph was terrible at best but it is too bad they jumped ship. i was thinking of writing a simple editor for cutting and splicing XP files but have not done so. i know it wold be a pretty big job and there seemed to be no demand for it. also the possibility of exporting both the regular and xp data to a separate file, removing the XP data from the original file which would allow editing in regular editors and then restoring all xp data in correct order for events that still remained in the edited file. the external file would contain every regular midi event with a unique identifier and all the XP data linked to the same identifier. does not seem terribly difficult to do as long as only contiguous cuts were allowed. allowing general editing would be difficult. it seems you must have figured this out on your own. good because i have too many projects going :)

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------ Original Message ------
From: "'George F. Litterst' PianoBench@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@...m>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 10/14/2017 2:57:52 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Free Pianosoft Classical files 2017 e-piano competition

Good afternoon, everyone.


Ian, I am one of those who maintains the DEN webpages.

Up till now, the primary reason that the Piano-e-Competition files have not been available from recent competitions is that there have been obstacles to processing them. In most cases, the original recordings are in XP mode, which means that they contain extra MIDI messages that provide the high resolution information that is used on playback by the Disklavier PRO.

When the files are processed, it is necessary to edit them in a number of ways. For starters, there are often many pieces that are contained within a single recording. For example, a single recording could contain an entire hour-long recital.

During the processing of the files, we break up these longer recordings into individual pieces. In doing so, we need to maintain the integrity of the XP data, ensure that each file contains the necessary header information (which appeared just once in the original file), and we get rid of extraneous pedaling that occurred between pieces.

Once the XP files are processed, we create derivative “normal” Standard MIDI Files and legacy E-SEQ files.

You would expect that the foregoing tasks would be straightforward, using a MIDI sequencer on Mac or PC. However, we have not found a commercial sequencer that will handle the XP data correctly. The XP data typically involves multiple messages that must appear in a particular order on a particular clock tick. Commercial sequencers tend to mess with the order of these XP events.

The files from 2002-2011 were processed by a company that no longer exists, using in-house tools that were not commercially available. Although there was an commercial XP editor that became available in 2011-2012 called RePerform, that editor is not up to this task for a variety of reasons.

The good news is that we have recently come up with a method of processing these files, and they will start to become available this fall on the DEN and Piano-e-Competition sites.

In the case of the files that briefly became available for the 2017 competition, I believe that someone made a momentarily mistake by releasing them. I do not believe that there was an intention to release these files commercially but not freely on the Piano-e-Competition and DEN websites.

Regards,
PianoBench

On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Ian wam@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from my last visits to both the yamahaden signature pages, and the Minnesota e-competition site, midi files are not available for the competitions of several recent years. The Minnesota site offers videos in lieu – the Den site offers only the early competition files . But Yamaha areare selling thru Musicsoft (or offering on promo thru sales) the 2017 files as standard midi or .psx files


Yamaha sponsors the event and, one presumes, originally set up all the recording facilities to capture hundreds of fine performances.

Clearly, someone in Yamaha maintains the Yamaha web pages for http://yamahaden.com/midi-files
I have sent 2 e-emails to "Yamaha Support" to find out who maintains this page and to answer my question as to why, after so many years of posting the e-competition performances, Yamaha has stopped posting the e-competition on that page. Both replies came back from Musicsoft and cannot answer my questions.

The Den page gives owners of ALL Disklaviers, options for downloading midis in file formats to suit their particular pianos – and this is no longer happening.

Now that new postings on the Den page have discontinued I can no longer get XP files for my Enspire Piano and I have to make do with Standard midis purchased thru Musicsoft. Of course I'm grateful that due to a promotion, these were available at no cost.

Musicsoft sales division does not seem to be supporting Yamaha's latest Enspire Pianos. They have so few XP formatted titles available. As they are no longer available on Den pages, why then are the 2017 e-competion files not available to Musicsoft in XP format, when the recordings were all certainly made on XP Pro pianos?

IAN WILLIAMSON




On 12/10/2017, at 11:17 PM, 'George F. Litterst' PianoBench@aol.com [disklavier] wrote:

Good morning, everyone.


Alak, I think it possible that the files have been removed from the store, perhaps because they were not intended to be available on a commercial basis.

The files will eventually end up in the Signature MIDI Collection on the website of the Yamaha Disklavier Education Network (www.yamahaden.com) and on the website of the Minnesota International Piano-e-Competition (www.piano-e-competition.com). I expect that to be the case within a month and will keep you informed.

Regards,
PianoBench


On Oct 12, 2017, at 2:11 AM, Alak Ghosh alakghosh@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi Guys,



and gave me a page not found 404 error. I also made sure I was logged into my Yamaha Musicsoft account before clicking the link.

Is this link only accessible to EU customers?

Thanks,
Alak.



On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:53 PM, "'Geoff Ward' gward1211@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


That’s probably it. I don’t have a Yamaha account. I’ll get the files from someone else.
Kind regards
Geoff
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2017 12:02 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Free Pianosoft Classical files 2017 e-piano competition
Promo codes can’t be applied unless you’re logged in to your account. That may be the problem.
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 4:56 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Free Pianosoft Classical files 2017 e-piano competition
epiano didn’t work for me.
Kind regards
Geoff
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 October 2017 5:17 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Free Pianosoft Classical files 2017 e-piano competition
Hi everyone
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