Disklavier

You can take the midi file and run it through a virtual piano on your computer to get the audio file you want.  I do this with recordings my father has made on my Disklavier then burn them to CDs to distribute to other family members.

If you use Logic on a Mac computer, there are several pianos to choose from.    Years ago I bought the Native Instrument s collection that had 5 Piano types and that is what I use.  It might be called Kontakt now.

This is a good way to render a MIDI file to a wave file.

Carol Beigel


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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 3:12 AM, Ian wam@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Alak,
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> The Enspire is all about high definition midi –  that's how it records and that's how it plays best.
> It does not make .wav files – only XP (high definition) midis can be recorded by you into its database. Among the 500 or more proprietary tunes loaded into your piano by Yamaha before purchase, some have audio accompaniments in .wav format. These are controlled via the iPad that comes with the piano. 
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> Yamaha's .wav files only contain the accompaniment tracks which play thru the speakers of your piano. These are automatically synchronised to play with separate midi information which drives the solenoids of the hammers and pedals of your piano. On older models of Disklavier, I understand that midi info on USB gets automatically synchronised to play back with CDs in the tray of the 850 controller.
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> You will never get the type of audio file you want directly out of the Enspire. If you want to capture the full realistic sound of your piano, you will have to make recordings using a microphone. 
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> But what about MusiCast? you ask: To hear your piano playing through the piano speakers or a MusiCast system, your iPad controller must be used to switch on an inbuilt player (in the Enspire hard drive unit) which then uses quality in-built Yamaha sound fonts to artificially re-create the piano sound with pedalling, putting it out through both the piano speakers and the MusiCast system. But it is only an approximation of the fabulous quality of sound that your piano can give from playing it live. 
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> If a Yamaha .wav file is playing the piano and it has an accompaniment, that accompaniment will be heard coming out of the piano's speakers, but there is a separate midi track linked to that audio track, and that is being read by the drive unit in your piano to move the solenoids. Switching to Silent Play will divert the midi signal to the inbuilt player, where sound fonts will convert the signal to an audio track which then goes out through both the piano speakers and the MusiCast system.
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> I guess that the audio signal coming from  the Audio-Out RCAs could be tapped and sent to a microphone input, but that is little better than what I have been doing with midis and sound fonts and conversion to .wav from inside my computer. 
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> I intend to buy a microphone for much the same reasons as you, although, for the moment my smart phone and video camera seem to make sound recordings adequate enough for my present needs.
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> If you tell me of some of your favourite composers, I will send you some superbly played files to put thru your Enspire.
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>> On 31/10/2017, at 3:20 PM, Alak Ghosh alakghosh@yahoo.ca [disklavier] wrote:
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>> Hi Ian,
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>> 1) I didn't know that since I haven't tried plugging headphones into the piano yet. Auto-quiet mode with headphones is a great feature!
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>> 3) I want to get the performance quality of the Disklavier into WAV format rather than a generic MIDI to WAV conversion on a computer which will not capture the nuances of the extended MIDI used on the Enspire.  My goal is to record my own playing until I am satisfied and then keep good performances and convert them to WAV from the saved MIDI.  Your idea of using the headphone audio out will probably be a good workaround for now but I really hope that there is some yet undiscovered way of getting the converted WAV from the Disklavier itself since it is the only device which understands the detailed MIDI performance data.
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>> Regarding playing non-Disklavier MIDI files on the Enspire, you are way ahead of me there.  I don't really do any MIDI editing but I did notice that standard MIDI piano are very mechanical sounding and quite loud as you described.  I tried a couple of general MIDI files that included other instruments and it just didn't work correctly at all.  The playback didn't happen on the correct instruments and it sounded horrible.  I didn't have time to look into it.  It looks like QMidi is a Mac based MIDI editing tool.  Anything simple you suggest for Windows?
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>> I mentioned earlier about using RCA audio input on the Enspire.  I now keep an RCA to male stereo cable always connected and available to plug into music sources like my iPad.  This way I can practice playing along with recordings and backing tracks.  It is really cool to have the audio setup as a part of the piano as opposed to having to have a separate amplifier and speaker setup in the room to go along with the piano.
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>> Do you have any issues getting the USB dongle to stay connected to your home router?  Is mine possibly defective?  I need to contact support about that I think.
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>> Alak.
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>> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:46 PM, "Ian wam@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Alak,
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>> I'm very pleased to hear from you.
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>> I will try to answer your questions as best I can.
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>> For my present needs, I have been able to work out nearly all the questions I asked in my early post and referred to in your post just written:
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>> 1) Plugging the earphones into the socket beneath the control panel also renders the piano silent.
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>> 2) I will try the RCA cables when I need to play an accompaniment file, but I don't yet create accompaniment files. Presently I  use the USB to midi-in connection – otherwise the iPad allows me to demonstrate audio accompaniment from files supplied with the piano. I have copies of early Yamaha discs used in the 850 controller. They are in .wav format in my computer which I had hoped to play thru the Enspire, but I am told that copy protection will prevent that type of use, although connecting any CD player unit via RCA leads should permit these discs to play thru the Enspire.
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>> 3) I have a Mac Computer which has Garage Band as an App. I drop the midi into Garage band and then, from 'Share' in the drop down menu, I can burn it to a blank CD. ALTERNATIVELY, if you are on PC, get hold of a short male to male 3mm stereo lead and patch from earphone socket directly into record socket of your computer. Play the midi in your computer (I double click the midi icon and RealPlayer automatically opens and plays it using sound fonts found in the computer). Plugging into the headphone socket will send the audio of the playing midi over to the record channel and, providing you have an App which will record sound, an audio recording will be created which you then burn to CD.
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>> 4) & 5) MusicCast has yet to be hooked up by me. I have all the necessary hardware components, but have not yet worked out how to connect them together, despite some instructional videos being available on YouTube. There has been no imperative for me to do it yet. In Sydney, Australia, we have Geeks2U which is a service provider which sends technicians for an hourly rate who can get these modern wireless systems working and interacting. I will use them when I feel the need to get everything connected. I'm sure that you would find an equivalent in California. You have the added advantage of being able to receive and record regular 'live' concerts on-line which will play thru your TV and stereo systems, simultaneously playing your piano which is the sort of incentive I need.
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>> Do you use an editor to optimise your midis for playback? I think it is essential for anyone with a Disklavier, playing midis not made for their piano. Even files downloaded from Yamaha Den, can be uncomfortably forceful in playing back on the Enspire: Note velocities in some of these XP files are too strong and too loud for safe playing. I play everything through an editor to get sound levels correct for my piano in my room, and, having saved the adjusted file, then drag it into a Playlist created by QMidi. The optimised midi files are ultimately stored in a folder on my desktop, labelled "Midis Optimised for Yamaha".
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>> I would like to hear from you as to how you use your Enspire and what you play on it. My great delight is in optimising emulations extracted from reproducing piano rolls.
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>> Thank you for taking the trouble to write to me. 
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>> Ian Williamson
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>>> On 30/10/2017, at 7:14 AM, alakghosh@... [disklavier] wrote:
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>>> Hi Ian,
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>>> I know this thread is old but I also recently purchased exactly the same piano DC5XENPRO and I wanted to know if you managed to get answers to all your questions?
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>>> 1) To turn on Silent Play go to the "Balance" settings (mixer icon on lower right) and select "Quiet" for the "Acoustic/Quiet" setting at the top.
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>>> 2) I am not sure exactly what you asking in question 2.  You can directly play WAV files by putting them a USB key.  You can also directly hook up an audio input to the Enspire with RCA audio cables.  You can then record both the audio and MIDI performance at the same time as a recorded song to make your own Pianosoft Audio file.
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>>> 3) I would also like to know how to convert MIDI to WAV from the Disklavier so that I can send audio versions of performances to friends.  Please let me know if you found a way to do this?
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>>> 4) I also have an amplifier with MusicCast and I don't see how it can talk to the piano wirelessly.  Please share any info you have on this.
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>>> 5) The USB dongle is a WiFi adapter for the piano to connect to your home network and to the internet.  When it is in Access Point (AP) mode it does not connect to your router or to the internet.  Instead it creates it's own WiFi network for you to connect to the piano and control it directly.  However most people will want to use the USB dongle in router mode (RT) so that it connects to your home network and the Internet.  In that way you can control both your piano and the piano can connect to online streaming radio/TV services.
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>>> Having said this, I am having no luck getting the USB dongle (UD-WL01) to stay connected to my router (Netgear R9000).  Nothing else on my network has problems connecting to my router so this is really disappointing for me.  I have had to workaround this issue by using a network extender connected to the piano with an ethernet cable.
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>>> By now you probably may have discovered the answers to many of the above questions but please share your info also since I think many of us new Enspire owners can benefit!
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>>> Thanks!
>>> Alak.
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