Hi Tom May I just say that Sibelius 2.1 and Photoscore Pro 2.1 are very very expensive around £600 in the UK. For that money I could hire a proffesional pianist to play them for me, without the need to spend hours making it sound good. Midi Magic --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@n...> wrote: > For what it's worth, I would like to chime in and add my two cents about > scanning in music. > > Let me begin by saying that I am an adult trying to learn to play my > DC3A disklavier. After spending a year with Voyetra's "Teach Me Piano" > software which I enjoyed very much and felt was an excellent way to > begin to learn to play the piano (for an adult), I began taking one hour > per week piano lessons slightly over one year ago. The core of my > instruction has been the Suzuki Piano Method and I am now on the 3rd > selection in book 4 of this method for those familiar with the method. > In addition my instructor always assigns me classical pieces from > several other books including the Hanon and Czerny technical materials. > I would thus classify myself as a very inexperienced student attempting > to learn the piano. > > I began scanning in sheet music about two years ago using Smart Score > and Finale. Smart Score V. 1.3 (which I began with) did a very poor job > in terms of scanning accuracy although this improved somewhat when I > purchased a newer Epson flatbed scanner. I can definitely state that > the quality of the scanner plays an important role in scanning music in > terms of the accuracy of the results. Another important issue is the > interface between the scanning program and the notation program. It is > always necessary to correct errors, add dynamics, musical expressions, > text, etc. in the notation program. Finale and Smart Score work > together, but in my opinion not very well. It is necessary to save a > Smart Score music scan as a .fin file which must then be imported into > Finale. The importation into Finale introduces errors that were not > present in the scan requiring further correction. Furthermore, in my > opinion, Finale has a difficult learning curve (I have been using it > steadily for 2 years and I still find myself referring constantly to the > manual). While Smart Score has improved significantly with Version 2.1 > (currently latest version), it still has problems including the fact > that my computer (running Windows 2000 Pro on a 1.8 GHZ Pentium 4 with 1 > GB of memory) crashes after every single time that I use Smart Score. > (No other software that I have produces these crashes but Smart Score.) > > Recently (about two months ago) I purchased Sibelius 2.1 and its > associated scanning program (Photoscore Pro). These two programs are > tightly integrated although Photoscore is more limited in its > recognition of musical symbols than Smart Score. Both Sibelius 2.1 and > Photoscore Pro 2.1 are very very stable. I have never experienced a > crash with either program even when running other programs and using > them for hours. Photoscore's note accuracy in music scanning is > excellent with my Epson flatbed scanner. With all of that said, to get > a piece to play with correct interpretations of the dynamics and other > expressions in the score requires extensive editing in Sibelius. > Fortunately Sibelius is much more intuitive to use than Finale, and in > only 2 months of working with it I feel far more competent to edit > notation in Sibelius than in Finale. Further, Sibelius has some very > interesting artificial intelligence algorithms which can, to some > extent, interpret correct musical phrasing and apply rubato in > controlled amounts to the midi playback of the piece. I find that the > playback of Sibelius files on my computer using an Creative Live > Platinum sound card is very good, and the playback of dynamics and > pedaling on my Yamaha disklavier DC3A is also very good. > > No one should believe that music scanning can produce a file that plays > back with all of the expressional nuances that an excellent pianist can > incorporate into a piece. We are years away from that point, and in > fact, I would seriously doubt that computers will every seriously > challenge a good pianist in terms of playback. With that said, I do > find the playback of the music that I have scanned in using Photoscore > and edited in Sibelius and Finale to be musically satisfying. That > statement may reveal more about my lack of musical sophistication than > anything else, but I have also had these files played back for others > (including pianists) who are quite amazed and pleased with the quality > of the playback. > > The bottom line is that scanning in of polyphonic music (which nearly > all piano music is) is not a trivial or inexpensive process. It requires > a great deal of patience to learn these programs, understand what they > can and cannot do, and a willingness to spend many hours to build the > kind of playback that will satisfy most, but not the most > discriminating listeners. However, it can be done, and the results of > music scanning have been most helpful to me in learning new pieces, and > in listening to a wide assortment of music on the web for Finale and > Sibelius. > > Tom
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Re: using a scanner
2003-04-29 by midi_magic2000
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