Disklavier

If you can use a Disklavier with silent function (esp Mk III/IV), the Piano voice 
used in Silent Mode is a high quality sample of a Yamaha Concert Grand, so you 
could just take the audio outputs from the Disklavier into whatever you use to 
record and still record the sound of a Yamaha Grand Piano.

Adrian Thomas
Milton Keynes
UK

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:00 , Buddhika Wije <buddhika50@...> sent:

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>Carol,
>Dont bother with the sounds in the computer cards as they are no where near good 
as the sounds in the Xg or the new high end\ufffdyamaha keyboards.
>I was told RODE mics are good value for money.
>all the best
>Budds
>(melbourne)
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>>From: "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...>
>>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>>To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [disklavier] audio recordings of piano music
>>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:41:06 -0400
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>>Thanks to everyone who has responded to my inquiry
>>about digital audio recordings.\ufffd\ufffdYou have been very
>>helpful.\ufffd\ufffdI want to clear up exactly what I want to do.
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>>First of all, I have no intention of trying to make
>>professional quality recordings.\ufffd\ufffdI just spent 4 days
>>in one of those million-dollar plus recording studios
>>doing some of the most exacting work of my career.
>>There were two sound engineers, a producer, the
>>pianist, and me the piano technician.\ufffd\ufffdI think the 
>four
>>microphones used for this recording cost more than my
>>car!\ufffd\ufffdThey were recording piano teaching methods,
>>phrasing and dynamics, etc. so using audio samples
>>would not have worked!\ufffd\ufffdMy job was to make the piano
>>perfect, so I was glad to be working with a Yamaha C7;
>>the tuning had to be perfect, and the voicing and
>>action had to be dead even, and absolutely no pedal or
>>action noises!\ufffd\ufffdEvery time I work for these folks, I
>>end up taking a day before the recording sessions just
>>to prep the piano.\ufffd\ufffdThis involves taking the whole
>>thing a part and tightening all the hundreds of screws
>>in the action and case; cleaning all the key pins;
>>leveling the strings; and dissassembling the pedal lyre
>>to tighten the wedges that hold the parts together so
>>they 
>don't squeak!\ufffd\ufffdThen the piano is tuned and voiced
>>every two hours during the recording sessions.\ufffd\ufffdNo way
>>am I going to ever duplicate that fabulous studio or do
>>that kind of prep for what I want to do.
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>>I want a VERY portable setup that does a better job
>>than a cheap little boombox with a built-in mic
>>recording on audio cassette tape.\ufffd\ufffdI want to record my
>>Dad playing a piano in a nursing home with his duet
>>partner playing on an old Hammond organ.\ufffd\ufffdI want to
>>make better quality audio recordings of family events
>>for someone who will not be able to see the pictures in
>>the future.\ufffd\ufffdI would also like to be able to tell
>>people how little Jenny or Johnny can record their
>>piano recital pieces to a CD for grandma; or better
>>yet, be able to 
>recommend a reasonable set-up to the
>>music teachers who want to do this.
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>>Perhaps the biggest use I have seen with home recording
>>equipment, or the perceived better recording done in
>>church, is to produce an audition tape for a college
>>interview.\ufffd\ufffdI personally do not want to get involved in
>>these things, and I always point out that for what they
>>have invested in all those years of piano lessons,
>>music and the piano, that they should just go to a
>>recording studio and have the tape made professionally.
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>>I am taking to heart the advice about microphones being
>>"too" good.\ufffd\ufffdI am thinking I still want 2, so I will
>>definitely buy one condenser mic, and perhaps one of a
>>different type as well.\ufffd\ufffdAny advice on specific mics is
>>appreciated.\ufffd\ufffdI know 
>mics need power, and I guess that
>>is what a pre amp does.\ufffd\ufffdThe MBox has 48V phantom power
>>so I assume that is what powers the mics.
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>>All the recording engineers recommend the MBox and yet
>>that one has the most problems on people's home
>>computers.\ufffd\ufffdI will very carefully check the specs, and
>>there seem to be a LOT of them, to make sure my laptop
>>has a fast enough and the right brand of processor.\ufffd\ufffdIf
>>the MBox won't run on my Compaq Evo, then I will need
>>alternate suggestions about the audio to digital
>>converter interface.
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>>Thanks again for all your advice.\ufffd\ufffdI know this is a
>>subject dear to many, and there is much software and
>>equipment to choose from!\ufffd\ufffdSome of the worst recordings
>>I ever heard were done with home equipment; and 
>yet
>>some really, really good ones as well!\ufffd\ufffdJust remember,
>>my setup needs to be portable.
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>>BTW, I have had my father record on my Disklavier, so I
>>have the MIDI files.\ufffd\ufffdI will see which way to a CD
>>turns out better - either recording the DKV piano
>>playing the MIDI files through the MBox, or using the
>>sampled sounds on either the XG sounds on the DKV, or
>>whatever comes out of the soundcard on my\ufffd\ufffdcomputer.
>>Are the sampled sounds better on the XG daughter board,
>>or the same as on the built-in sounds on the
>>motherboard of my computer?
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>>Thanks ever so much.
>>
>>Carol
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Peter Phillips" <eleced@...>
>>To: <disklavier@...>
>>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 
>10:14 PM
>>Subject: [disklavier] audio recordings of piano music
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>> > Hi Carol and all
>> > I recently made a CD of piano performances of my DKV
>>for my mother. The
>> > resulting recording quality has been widely praised
>>by quite a few people,
>> > and I have even sold a few of the CDs. Here's the
>>setup I used:
>> > . microphone - AKG D65S, mono (about $100)
>> > . position - placed in curve of grand piano, pointing
>>towards music desk
>> > (critical to get the right placement)
>> > . room - 4 x 5 metre, nothing special, piano sitting
>>on vinyl covered floor
>> > . pre-amp - one I built myself from a magazine design
>> > . storage medium/processing - computer, via Cool Edit
>>Pro, small amount of
>> > reverb, but not much else.
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>> > Since making this recording I have researched other
>>microphones and
>> > researched the topic of recording pianos in
>>particular. An often repeated
>> > opinion is that using a very high quality microphone
>>can result in
>> > recording all the clicks and mechanical noises made
>>by a piano. That is,
>> > don't always go for the highest quality. As well, a
>>stereo mic is not
>> > necessarily twice as good as a mono mic.
>> >
>> > Carol: I'm happy to mail you a copy of the audio CD
>>for your appraisal.
>> > Then you can judge whether my setup would suit you.
>> >
>> > From Australia - Peter Phillips
>> > From Peter Phillips, Electronic Editorials NSW. Phone
>>(02) 9773 4734,
>> > mobile 0418 407 607, fax (02) 9773 9943. Website 
>at
>> > http://members.optushome.com.au/eleced/index.htm
>> >
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