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Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and Solution

2007-01-19 by yadidisklavier

You are great...thanks for doing this.  

I'll try looking at the disply again to see if I detect the array of 
pixels.  What you say about "already know what you are looking for" 
is making sense.  Its like those "seeing eye books".  I'm sure I'll 
need glasses when all is said and done.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@... wrote:
>
> I will photo for you this weekend and if I can find any markings, I 
will note them in the email.  Please see my other post.  I have also 
thought of finding a replacement but after about half an hour with 
some vendors catalogs, I concluded that the Yamaha replacement was 
the safest, fastest, and most cost effective solution for me.  
>  
> In the darkened room, you should be able to see the array of pixels 
that make up the two lines of text in the display even if they are 
turned off.  Did you see this?  You need to identify these first to 
see if you can see any characters faintly on them.  I know this is 
very difficult.  It's one of those things you cannot see unless you 
already know what you are looking for. If these characters are 
changing, then the display controller is working and it is a no 
contrast issue as described before.  In my case, a new display was an 
instant fix.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Mike
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yadidisklavier@...
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
Solution
> 
> 
> I'm located in Bethlehem, PA (eastern PA).
> 
> I'm wondering if I could get enough information off the display and 
> find a substitute. While I'm sure Yamaha would sell me one, I would 
> hope to find one on the secondary market. Any chance of you taking 
a 
> digital photo? 
> 
> Also, I can't make out any text with the lights low. The green 
> backlight is bright, but nothing else. The player, otherwise, works 
> great. 
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@ wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I have the old non functional display. 
> > 
> > It is very difficult to test the display without the supporting 
> circuitry of the controller. Try this, at night, in a dark room, 
> turn on the Disklavier in the normal way without putting in a disk. 
> The display should, after about 10 - 15 seconds, display "Insert 
> Disk" See if you can see the individual pixels of the display - if 
> you look very carefully, you may be able to verify that there is a 
> very very faint display of the "insert disk" text. If you can see 
> this, and if it changes when you do insert the disk, there is a 
> strong possibility that the display just needs to be replaced. If 
> you do not see this, it does not mean the display is OK and the 
> problem is elsewhere but that could be the case. The easiest way to 
> determine the problem is to swap the display with a known good one 
or 
> put your display into a known good controller. Where are you 
located?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yadidisklavier@
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:01 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
> Solution
> > 
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > Do you happen to have the old display still in your possession? 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Bernard,
> > > 
> > > If you read down further in this post, you will see a copy of 
my 
> > original post re: the display. Having a background in 
electronics, 
> I 
> > was able to test and replace the display myself. It is not that 
> > difficult for someone who is trained in this type of work. I 
> > recommend you have a technician look at the unit if you are not 
> > familiar with this type of repair. 
> > > 
> > > My display was blank from the moment I purchased the piano from 
> the 
> > previous owner so I do not know how long it was blank or if it 
went 
> > blank suddenly like yours or faded over time. 
> > > 
> > > Thankfully, parts seem to be available. Nothing beats a working 
> > display - - accept, of course, a working display and a delicious 
> > piece of Swiss chocolate! 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BSchmidt@
> > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 1:23 PM
> > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem and 
> > Solution
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello Mike and Yadidisklavier,
> > > 
> > > I am from switzerland and have an MX100II. 
> > > I disconnected the main plug of the piano while my holidays. 
When 
> I
> > > come back two weeks later I switched on the piano. Then I 
noticed 
> > that
> > > there was no text on the display. Not nice.
> > > The backlight was ok. I tried to check whether I can see any 
dots 
> of
> > > the character matrix by changing the angle of view but there was
> > > absolutely nothing to see.
> > > 
> > > I'm interested how your (Yadidisklavier) display was repaired.
> > > 
> > > Bernhard
> > > 
> > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, n9544c@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Glad to hear my post has helped someone else! Yes, the 
display 
> > will
> > > be lighted but no text visible unless you get the view angle 
just
> > > right and then it is only a "hint" of text. You will need to 
have 
> > the
> > > display replaced. I do not know your technical background but 
it 
> is
> > > not that difficult - two connectors if I remember correctly and 
a
> > > bunch of screws to get at it. If you are not confident in this 
> type
> > > of work I would seek professional assistance. If you are in the
> > > Chicago area, I could help you with this but otherwise you will 
> need
> > > some assistance locally. You can order the part as described in 
my
> > > original post from Yamaha Disklavier technical support. Freddie 
at
> > > Yamaha technical support can help you with this.
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: yadidisklavier@
> > > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:03 AM
> > > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: MX100 II Main LCD Display Problem 
and 
> > Solution
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Mike, 
> > > > 
> > > > I realize this is a very old message you put into Yahoo 
Groups. 
> > > > Nonetheless, I'm hoping you are still here...
> > > > 
> > > > I have rec'd an MX100 II recently. While the control unit 
> > (player) 
> > > > operates fine (plays disks and midi in), the LCD screen is 
> > totally 
> > > > blank (like you described). However, my LCD screen is all lit 
> up 
> > > > (green) but without any text. Is this similar to what you 
> > > > experienced?
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, I cannot use any menus, record, etc. on the 
> player 
> > > > itself until I resolve this issue. Any advice or information 
> > would 
> > > > be appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <n9544c@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > With great anticipation, I have received my "new" MX100 II 
> and 
> > it 
> > > > > looks and plays beautifully! Thanks to the info here for 
> > getting 
> > > > me 
> > > > > started on converting the midi files of old reproducing 
piano 
> > rolls 
> > > > > to Disklavier format. The procedure is painless and the 
music 
> > is 
> > > > > wonderful.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I did have a problem in that the contrast on the LCD 
display 
> > was so 
> > > > > low that I could not see ANYTHING on the screen. Upon 
really 
> > close 
> > > > > inspection with the room lights very low and looking at 
just 
> > the 
> > > > > right angle, I could just make out "Insert Disk."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do any of you have a similar problem?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a technical background in electronics and armed with 
> the 
> > > > > technical service manual from Yamaha and my test equipment, 
I 
> > > > > diagnosed the problem to the display itself. This, I 
thought, 
> > was 
> > > > > odd in that I have never run into a display which faded to 
> > nothing 
> > > > > over time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In checking with the Yamaha technical staff, I found out 
that 
> > this 
> > > > is 
> > > > > not too uncommon for a display over 10 years old. I ordered 
a 
> > new 
> > > > > display module, installed the unit myself (about 1 hour of 
> very 
> > > > > careful work)and...problem solved! Works like new! Well, it 
> is 
> > > > new, 
> > > > > the display that is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you are suffering with a very light display, you may 
wish 
> to 
> > > > > consider having your display replaced. The part is about 
$230 
> > > > plus 
> > > > > the installation time for your technician.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have nothing but good things to say about Yamaha 
technical 
> > > > > support. Every contact with them has been first class.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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