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Re: Floppy Disk Storage and Organization

2001-07-05 by joannagalt@yahoo.com

Robert, thanks for the CALs. I tried all 3 separately and I got them 
to direct the pedal to channel 3. I'll discuss your suggested pedal 
settings with my RPT.

Regards. 

--- In disklavier@y..., "Robert E. Welcyng" <rwelcyng@a...> wrote:
> I use three different CAL routines with Cakewalk.  The first 
routine copies from
> track 1 to track 2 the on/off pedaling directed to channel 1 .  The 
second
> routine converts the pedaling in the selected track (say, track 2) 
from channel
> 1 to channel 3.  The third routine affects the selected track 
(again, say, track
> 2) and limits the sustain pedal to no less than 24 and no greater 
than 80 (and
> leaves all values between 24 and 80 intact).
> 
> The three routines could have been combined into a single one, but 
there are
> times when you may wish to apply one separately or modify one such 
as when track
> 2 is already occupied with note events.  
> 
> The third routine addresses the annoyance of on/off pedal 
thumping.  To use it
> successfully, your pedal must be in adjustment such that you get 
full damping at
> a value of 24 and completely undamped ringing at 80.  Once the 
first sustain
> pedal event is encountered, the pedal will modulate between 24 and 
80 rather
> than drop with a crash from 127 to 0.  This routine can be applied 
singly to
> quiet a piece that already has continuous pedaling but is banging 
back and forth
> between extremes.
> 
> Here are the CAL scripts:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> ; CopyControllersToTrack2.CAL 
> 
> 
> (do
> 	
> 	(TrackSelect 1 0)
> 	(ResetFilter 0 1)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 NOTE 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 KEYAFT 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 PATCH 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 CHANAFT 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 WHEEL 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 RPN 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 NRPN 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 SYSX 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 SYSXDATA 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 TEXT 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 LYRIC 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 WAVE 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 MCI 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 EXPRESSION 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 CHORD 0)
> 	(SetFilterKind 0 HAIRPIN 0)
> 	(EditCopy40 1 1 1 0 0 0 )
> 	(EditPaste40 0 1 1 1 215106 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
> 	(ResetFilter 0 1)
> 	(SetFilterRange 0 13 1 0 16384)
> 	(TrackSelect 1 1)
> 	(TrackSelect 0 1)
> 		
> )
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> ; SetChannel to 3.cal
> 
> (do
> 	(TrackChannel 2 1)
> 	(forEachEvent
> 		(= Event.Chan 2)
> 	)
> )
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> ;24-80.cal
> ;Limits sustain pedal to no less than 24
> ;and no greater than 80
> 
> (do
> 	(forEachEvent
> 		(if (== Control.Num 64)
> 			(do
> 				(if (> Control.Val 80)
> 					(= Control.Val 80))
> 				(if (< Control.Val 24)
> 					(= Control.Val 24))
> 			)
> 		)
> 	)
> )
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> joannagalt@y... wrote:
> > 
> > How do you go about changing midi files to direct pedaling to 
channel
> > 3 (for continuous pedaling)?  I assume you use Cakewalk to do 
this.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@y..., "Robert E. Welcyng" <rwelcyng@a...> wrote:
> > > I have used a DAT and Sound Forge to measure the timing 
accuracy of
> > my Mark II.
> > > At note velocities over 40, the timing error 90% of the time is
> > less than a
> > > millisecond for single notes played in succession.  
Statistically
> > speaking, I
> > > found no difference in timing accuracy between MIDI from a
> > sequencer and E-SEQ
> > > in the Mark II drive.  With older slower computers there can be
> > noticeable
> > > timing degradation of MIDI under Windows if you give Windows 
other
> > jobs
> > > concurrently.
> > >
> > > Driving the DKV through the MIDI input does have another catch 
that
> > is not a
> > > problem with E-SEQ: You should take note of the pedaling.  If 
the
> > MIDI file has
> > > continuous pedaling directed to channel 3, you will want to set 
the
> > DKV's MIDI
> > > IN for "CH=HP" so that the DKV responds to the continuous pedal.
> > If only on/off
> > > pedaling is present and directed to, say, channel 1, then you 
will
> > want to set
> > > the DKV for MIDI IN as "CH=01".  Of the PianoSoft disks 
published,
> > some use one
> > > scheme and some use the other.  (I've modified my files so that
> > there is always
> > > pedaling directed to channel 3.)
> > >
> > > Putting all one's files on a CD is not going to be everyone's 
cup
> > of tea.  It's
> > > still a lot of work and the operation is not "iron ball" simple 
as
> > with a
> > > diskette.  Yet even operating with diskettes is not fool-proof--
> > insert the
> > > diskette upside down and, I understand, you will destroy the 
floppy
> > drive.
> > >
> > > "Mark A. Fontana" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if there might be a technical disadvantage to the
> > approach of
> > > > driving the Disklavier via MIDI from a computer.  Namely:
> > > >
> > > > Suppose a piece contains a chord of three notes struck
> > simultaneously.
> > > > This can be represented in ESEQ or MIDI format as three note-
on
> > events with
> > > > delta times of 0 between the second and third events.  The
> > Disklavier's
> > > > embedded controller can process a string of events like this 
as
> > quickly as
> > > > possible, ensuring all three notes strike at the same time 
(or as
> > close to
> > > > it as possible).
> > > >
> > > > Whereas if you send MIDI data into the Disklavier, there is no
> > notion of
> > > > delta time; notes are played as they are received (actually 
500
> > ms after
> > > > being received, so that the Disklavier can compensate for 
varying
> > solenoid
> > > > strike times at different velocity levels).  As MIDI is a 
serial
> > protocol
> > > > at 31250 bits/sec, 10 bits/byte (8 + start bit + stop bit), a
> > certain
> > > > amount of time is required to transmit each byte.
> > > >
> > > > With notes being played as they're received, it's impossible 
to
> > specify
> > > > that multiple notes be struck simultaneously.  Using running
> > status, a
> > > > three-note chord would require a minimum of almost 19 ms to
> > transmit via
> > > > MIDI, or about 28 ms without.  A larger chord with note-offs 
and
> > pedal data
> > > > mixed in could slow things much more.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone been able to tell a difference between playing the
> > same material
> > > > using the console and from a computer?
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, it could be that the convenience of storing
> > one's music
> > > > library on the computer outweighs any concerns about timing
> > accuracy.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Robert E. Welcyng wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You've done a service to those with an affection for more of
> > those pesky jewel
> > > > > cases.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an alternative, some might wish to convert their 
PianoSoft
> > material to MIDI
> > > > > and put the files on a CD-ROM.  Let's say you devote 600 MB 
of
> > a CD-ROM to
> > > > > data.  That would allow you to store at least 800 each 720 
KB
> > albums on a single
> > > > > CD.  Of course, you'd put the files in appropriately labeled
> > folders and name
> > > > > the files descriptively.  You'd devote a folder in the CD to
> > playlists and use a
> > > > > sequencer to play your DKV.  Rather than search and shuffle
> > through jewel cases,
> > > > > you use your Windows "Find" facility to locate files by
> > composer, title, or
> > > > > performer.  You don't have to bother about returning disks 
and
> > cases to their
> > > > > proper places.
> > 
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> > 
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moderator, send it to:
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> > 
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> > 
> > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and 
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> > 
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> 
> -- 
> Robert Welcyng
> Anchorage, Alaska

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