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Re: External floppy

2014-01-16 by Sam Kanter

Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?

Thanks,

Sam Kanter
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304

Re: External floppy

2014-01-16 by <rkhleunghk@...>

Hi Sam,


I don't believe so. as pianosoft disk is different format to pc format disk.

hope it helps.

cheers,


ray

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-16 by A Sanders

No, it won't. You can upload to your disklavier hard drive and then download from that to a USB and then to your computer. 

Sent from Alice's iPhone
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@...> wrote:
> 
> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sam Kanter
> www.keyboardcollective.com
> (212) 684-3304
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Mark Fontana


I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies: http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/

It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks. This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media. Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.

Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site: http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm

Mark


On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
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Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?

Thanks,

Sam Kanter
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304






Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Skanter123

Great, Mark, i will buy a cheap USB floppy drive on Amazon and try out your program! Any suggestions as to drives? They are all $10-15..,

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304





> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:
>
>
> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:  http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>
> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.
>
> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:  http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>
> Mark
>
>
>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:
>
>
> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:  http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>
> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.
>
> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:  http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>
> Mark
> 
>
>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Skanter123

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:53 PM, A Sanders <aliceksanders@...> wrote:
>
> No, it won't. You can upload to your disklavier hard drive and then download from that to a USB and then to your computer.

My disklavier does not have a hard drive, or even a working floppy. If an external floppy can somehow read the dk disks, i could convert to MIDI and play on DK from computer.

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:53 PM, A Sanders <aliceksanders@...> wrote:
>
> No, it won't. You can upload to your disklavier hard drive and then download from that to a USB and then to your computer.
>
> Sent from Alice's iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@...> wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Skanter123

It seems Mark Fontana has a program that will let me read dk floppies and convert to MIDI files, if I understood correctly.



Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:54 PM, A Sanders <aliceksanders@...> wrote:
>
> No, it won't. You can upload to your disklavier hard drive and then download from that to a USB and then to your computer.
>
> Sent from Alice's iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Sam Kanter <skanter123@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Sam Kanter

Mark, I've ordered an external USB floppy drive for 10 bucks that -supposedly- reads 720MB SS disks. Will see if I can extract files from floppies with this and your program - thanks!
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:


I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies: http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/

It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks. This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media. Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.

Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site: http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm

Mark


On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?

Thanks,








Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Adrian Thomas

Hi,
you will need a PC which allows you run DOS. There are some utilities which might help at www.carolrpt.com (look for 'dkvutils')

Adrian Thomas

On Jan 16 2014, Sam Kanter wrote:

>Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to
>desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I
>can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sam Kanter
>www.keyboardcollective.com
>(212) 684-3304
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-17 by Sam Kanter

Mark, I will try this as soon as my USB floppy drive arrives. Thanks!

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@kinura.net> wrote:
>
>
> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:  http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>
> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.
>
> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:  http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>
> Mark
>
>
>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>
>

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-18 by Ronald Natalie

I bought one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3GODW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Though I've not used it yet.

My understanding is that the only thing "non-standard" on the disks is that they didn't write a sector 0.   You can't directly mount it with the standard PC software, but if you can access the raw disk, you will find a dos FAT filesystem there.     There is DOS (real DOS unfortunately, not stuff that can run on Windows) to access this.  I  figure when I get a few days I'll write MAC software to use the thing.

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-18 by Skanter123

I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MBI1NG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

...Because it stated that it would read both 720KB and 1.4 MB discs. I think I read a review saying that the TEAC would not read 720kb discs. Ill report back when it arrives, probably tomorrow.

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 18, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ronald Natalie <ron@...> wrote:
>
> I bought one of these:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3GODW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> Though I've not used it yet.
>
> My understanding is that the only thing "non-standard" on the disks is that they didn't write a sector 0. You can't directly mount it with the standard PC software, but if you can access the raw disk, you will find a dos FAT filesystem there. There is DOS (real DOS unfortunately, not stuff that can run on Windows) to access this. I figure when I get a few days I'll write MAC software to use the thing.
>
>

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-18 by Sam Kanter

Have you tried this?

http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/


Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)

Sam
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304

*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
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> On Jan 18, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ronald Natalie <ron@...> wrote:
>
> I bought one of these:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3GODW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> Though I've not used it yet.
>
> My understanding is that the only thing "non-standard" on the disks is that they didn't write a sector 0.   You can't directly mount it with the standard PC software, but if you can access the raw disk, you will find a dos FAT filesystem there. There is DOS (real DOS unfortunately, not stuff that can run on Windows) to access this. I figure when I get a few days I'll write MAC software to use the thing.
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-19 by Skanter123

Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.

Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on dkl won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can control MIDI volume?

Sam 
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:  http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
> 
> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.
> 
> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:  http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>  
>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sam Kanter
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
> 
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-19 by Spencer Chase

you can use my midimod2 program to scale the velocity on a batch or 
single file basis. you can get it from the download page of my web site 
www.spencerserolls.com i am not sure when i last updated the program on 
the web. i fixed some compatibility issues regarding recent security bs 
so if you have any problems with the one on the web page, i can send you 
a different one.  the problem would be that you could not save presets. 
the program would still let you set sliders and modify files, it is just 
that some installations of windows do not let you write a .txt file to 
the root.

On 1/19/2014 9:58 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
> Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized 
> the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now 
> listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.
>
> Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on dkl 
> won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can 
> control MIDI volume?
>
> Sam
> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
> (212) 684-3304
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@... 
> <mailto:mark@...>> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract 
>> performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies: 
>> http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>>
>> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level 
>> problems reading the disks. This is sometimes caused by deterioration 
>> and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are 
>> issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from 
>> antivirus software.
>>
>> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more 
>> steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using 
>> Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, 
>> both available at Carol Beigel's site: 
>> http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and 
>>> connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier 
>>> Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sam Kanter
>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>>
>>
> 

-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-19 by Skanter123

Sounds good, Spencer!

I'm confused as to why dsk sometime lets me change volume with knob (which seems to control soft pedal) and sometimes doesn't when playing back MIDI files. 

Also, is there a way to control volume of playback besides velocity, which obviously changes more than volume? I would think not. Also, none of the other knobs on the dsk (transpose, tempo) are operative when playing MIDI files, yet volume usually is. One can control tempo and transpose from computer program playing back MIDI files.

Sam 
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Spencer Chase <lists@...> wrote:
> 
> you can use my midimod2 program to scale the velocity on a batch or single file basis. you can get it from the download page of my web site www.spencerserolls.com i am not sure when i last updated the program on the web. i fixed some compatibility issues regarding recent security bs so if you have any problems with the one on the web page, i can send you a different one.  the problem would be that you could not save presets. the program would still let you set sliders and modify files, it is just that some installations of windows do not let you write a .txt file to the root.
> 
>> On 1/19/2014 9:58 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
>>  
>> Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.
>> 
>> Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on dkl won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can control MIDI volume?
>> 
>> Sam 
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:  http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>>> 
>>> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or interference from antivirus software.
>>> 
>>> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:  http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Sam Kanter
>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best regards, Spencer Chase
> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@...
> http://www.spencerserolls.com
> (707) 984-8356 
> (425) 791-0309
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-19 by Spencer Chase

don't know about why the dkv would let you control volume some times and 
not at others. this is a question for someone else.

velocity is the MIDI term for loudness. it only changes loudness, 
nothing else (on an accoustic piano it changes hammer velocity which is 
probably why they use that term and HV is not strictly loudness but not 
going to get complicated here)

MIDI has two controllers that effect loudness as well, they are called 
volume (i think) and expression. youcan send messages with values on 
these controllers and some instruments will respond appropriately, 
others will not. i don't know if the dkv does or doesn't. somewhere i 
have a little desktop app that will send volume and expression 
controllers to any device on the computer. however different versions of 
windows do or do not allow multiple programs to access the same MIDI 
device so you may need to use midiox to connect them appropriately.

for reasons i will not get into here, most midi file players will not 
let you change tempo or transposition fully dynamically while playing a 
file. i wrote a program that i can virtual pianola that lets you control 
loudness and tempo and loudness while playing a file just as if you were 
operating an old pneumatic pianola. the problems are that you have to 
turn off the 500 ms delay and that my program does not have a s tight 
control over the event timing as one that uses the multimedia api. this 
is intentional and necessary. all things considered, it is a fun program 
and only requires a mouse to control everything. the version on the web 
is very old. anyone who wants to try it should contact me. if enough 
people want it. i'll post the new version.

On 1/19/2014 11:59 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
> Sounds good, Spencer!
>
> I'm confused as to why dsk sometime lets me change volume with knob 
> (which seems to control soft pedal) and sometimes doesn't when playing 
> back MIDI files.
>
> Also, is there a way to control volume of playback besides velocity, 
> which obviously changes more than volume? I would think not. Also, 
> none of the other knobs on the dsk (transpose, tempo) are operative 
> when playing MIDI files, yet volume usually is. One can control tempo 
> and transpose from computer program playing back MIDI files.
>
> Sam
> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
> (212) 684-3304
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Spencer Chase <lists@... 
> <mailto:lists@...>> wrote:
>
>> you can use my midimod2 program to scale the velocity on a batch or 
>> single file basis. you can get it from the download page of my web 
>> site www.spencerserolls.com i am not sure when i last updated the 
>> program on the web. i fixed some compatibility issues regarding 
>> recent security bs so if you have any problems with the one on the 
>> web page, i can send you a different one.  the problem would be that 
>> you could not save presets. the program would still let you set 
>> sliders and modify files, it is just that some installations of 
>> windows do not let you write a .txt file to the root.
>>
>> On 1/19/2014 9:58 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
>>> Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized 
>>> the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now 
>>> listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.
>>>
>>> Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on 
>>> dkl won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can 
>>> control MIDI volume?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@... 
>>> <mailto:mark@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract 
>>>> performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies: 
>>>> http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>>>>
>>>> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level 
>>>> problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by 
>>>> deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems 
>>>> like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or 
>>>> interference from antivirus software.
>>>>
>>>> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with 
>>>> more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes 
>>>> using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using 
>>>> ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site: 
>>>> http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>>>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and 
>>>>> connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier 
>>>>> Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Kanter
>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
>>>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>>>
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Best regards, Spencer Chase
>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
>> Spencer@...
>> http://www.spencerserolls.com
>> (707) 984-8356
>> (425) 791-0309
> 

-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356
(425) 791-0309

virtual pianola

2014-01-19 by Spencer Chase

about the program i just mentioned. it changes note velocity so you can 
dynamically control any midi device it does not have to respond to 
controllers etc. this is why it can't use the win mm api. same with 
tempo, it changes the note timing not the delta times in the file.

On 1/19/2014 11:59 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
> Sounds good, Spencer!
>
> I'm confused as to why dsk sometime lets me change volume with knob 
> (which seems to control soft pedal) and sometimes doesn't when playing 
> back MIDI files.
>
> Also, is there a way to control volume of playback besides velocity, 
> which obviously changes more than volume? I would think not. Also, 
> none of the other knobs on the dsk (transpose, tempo) are operative 
> when playing MIDI files, yet volume usually is. One can control tempo 
> and transpose from computer program playing back MIDI files.
>
> Sam
> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
> (212) 684-3304
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Spencer Chase <lists@... 
> <mailto:lists@...>> wrote:
>
>> you can use my midimod2 program to scale the velocity on a batch or 
>> single file basis. you can get it from the download page of my web 
>> site www.spencerserolls.com i am not sure when i last updated the 
>> program on the web. i fixed some compatibility issues regarding 
>> recent security bs so if you have any problems with the one on the 
>> web page, i can send you a different one.  the problem would be that 
>> you could not save presets. the program would still let you set 
>> sliders and modify files, it is just that some installations of 
>> windows do not let you write a .txt file to the root.
>>
>> On 1/19/2014 9:58 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
>>> Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized 
>>> the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now 
>>> listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.
>>>
>>> Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on 
>>> dkl won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can 
>>> control MIDI volume?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@... 
>>> <mailto:mark@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract 
>>>> performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies: 
>>>> http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>>>>
>>>> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level 
>>>> problems reading the disks.   This is sometimes caused by 
>>>> deterioration and wear of the disk media.  Other times, it seems 
>>>> like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or 
>>>> interference from antivirus software.
>>>>
>>>> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with 
>>>> more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes 
>>>> using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using 
>>>> ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site: 
>>>> http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>>>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and 
>>>>> connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier 
>>>>> Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Kanter
>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com>
>>>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>>>
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Best regards, Spencer Chase
>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
>> Spencer@...
>> http://www.spencerserolls.com
>> (707) 984-8356
>> (425) 791-0309
> 

-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(707) 984-8356
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-20 by FC TC

Stay away from TEAC. I had 2 that didn't work and worse yet, corrupted existing floppy data. I got credit w/o having to return anything --- they KNEW!

I finally got my hands on a DYNEX DX-EF101 and it works fine.





On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:33 PM, Skanter123 <skanter123@...> wrote:
 
  
I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MBI1NG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

...Because it stated that it would read both 720KB and 1.4 MB discs. I think I read a review saying that the TEAC would not read 720kb discs. Ill report back when it arrives, probably tomorrow.

Sam 
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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On Jan 18, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ronald Natalie <ron@...> wrote:


  
>I bought one of these:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3GODW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>Though I've not used it yet.
>
>My understanding is that the only thing "non-standard" on the disks is that they didn't write a sector 0.   You can't directly mount it with the standard PC software, but if you can access the raw disk, you will find a dos FAT filesystem there.     There is DOS (real DOS unfortunately, not stuff that can run on Windows) to access this.  I  figure when I get a few days I'll write MAC software to use the thing.
>
>

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-20 by Sam Kanter

Can't ask more from this one:

My 64-bit Win7 machine recognized it instantly, and I was reading 720KB SS Pianosoft, ESEQ and FIL disks in minutes! And, it was 9 bucks on Amazon!

(Why then, is a Yamaha floppy replacement drive $315.11?)


Sam Kanter
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:16 AM, FC TC <fctc04@...> wrote:

Stay away from TEAC. I had 2 that didn't work and worse yet, corrupted existing floppy data. I got credit w/o having to return anything --- they KNEW!

I finally got my hands on a DYNEX DX-EF101 and it works fine.



On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:33 PM, Skanter123 <skanter123@...> wrote:
I bought this one:


...Because it stated that it would read both 720KB and 1.4 MB discs. I think I read a review saying that the TEAC would not read 720kb discs. Ill report back when it arrives, probably tomorrow.

Sam

On Jan 18, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ronald Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:

I bought one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3GODW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Though I've not used it yet.

My understanding is that the only thing "non-standard" on the disks is that they didn't write a sector 0. You can't directly mount it with the standard PC software, but if you can access the raw disk, you will find a dos FAT filesystem there. There is DOS (real DOS unfortunately, not stuff that can run on Windows) to access this. I figure when I get a few days I'll write MAC software to use the thing.




Re: [disklavier] virtual pianola

2014-01-20 by Adrian Thomas

MIDI files often have a load of commands to control various settings. If you set the volume before the song starts, the MIDI date can reset the volume setting..

Adrian Thomas

On Jan 19 2014, Spencer Chase wrote:

>about the program i just mentioned. it changes note velocity so you can
>dynamically control any midi device it does not have to respond to
>controllers etc. this is why it can't use the win mm api. same with
>tempo, it changes the note timing not the delta times in the file.
>
>On 1/19/2014 11:59 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
>> Sounds good, Spencer!
>>
>> I'm confused as to why dsk sometime lets me change volume with knob
>> (which seems to control soft pedal) and sometimes doesn't when playing
>> back MIDI files.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to control volume of playback besides velocity,
>> which obviously changes more than volume? I would think not. Also,
>> none of the other knobs on the dsk (transpose, tempo) are operative
>> when playing MIDI files, yet volume usually is. One can control tempo
>> and transpose from computer program playing back MIDI files.
>>;
>> Sam
>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>> (212) 684-3304
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Spencer Chase >> > wrote:
>>
>>> you can use my midimod2 program to scale the velocity on a batch or
>>> single file basis. you can get it from the download page of my web
>>> site www.spencerserolls.com i am not sure when i last updated the
>>> program on the web. i fixed some compatibility issues regarding
>>> recent security bs so if you have any problems with the one on the
>>> web page, i can send you a different one. the problem would be that
>>> you could not save presets. the program would still let you set
>>> sliders and modify files, it is just that some installations of
>>> windows do not let you write a .txt file to the root.
>>>
>>> On 1/19/2014 9:58 AM, Skanter123 wrote:
>>>> Mark, i received the external USB floppy, my Win7 64-bit recognized
>>>> the drive immediately, your program worked like a charm! I'm now
>>>> listening to old recordings my brother made on disklavier.
>>>>
>>>> Small issue is that recordings seem a bit soft and volume knob on
>>>> dkl won't change anything. I think i've seen software where one can
>>>> control MIDI volume?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Mark Fontana >>>> > wrote:
>>>;>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've written a free software tool for Windows that can extract
>>>>> performances from Disklavier and PianoDisc floppies:
>>>>> http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
>>>>>
>>>>> It works fine for most people, but occasionally there are low-level
>>>>> problems reading the disks. This is sometimes caused by
>>>>> deterioration and wear of the disk media. Other times, it seems
>>>>> like there are issues with particular floppy drives and/or
>>>>> interference from antivirus software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another way to transfer files from Disklavier floppies, but with
>>>>> more steps, would be to extract the ESEQ files from your diskettes
>>>>> using Root-A-Ripper and then convert them to MIDI files using
>>>>> ESEQ2MID.EXE, both available at Carol Beigel's site:
>>>>> http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>;>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/16/2014 01:25 PM, Sam Kanter wrote:
>>>>>> Question to all: If I buy a cheap, external USB floppy drive and
>>>>>> connect to desktop computer, will it be able to read disklavier
>>>>>> Pianosoft disks so I can convert to MIDI and play thru MIDI on DK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Kanter
>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com
>>>>>> (212) 684-3304
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best regards, Spencer Chase
>>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
>>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
>>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
>>> Spencer@...
>>> http://www.spencerserolls.com
>>> (707) 984-8356
>>> (425) 791-0309
>>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-22 by <skanter123@...>

Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work (not there now so can't try yet).

Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-22 by Mark Fontana

This is a known limitation of the current version, and covering up the 
hole in the diskette won't make a difference.  1.44 MB Disklavier floppy 
support is already implemented and will be in the next version.  (The 
hold-up has to do with an expired code signing certificate, required to 
prevent Windows from warning that my software is untrusted and will 
destroy your computer.  The renewal will cost me about $500, just for 
the privilege of publishing free software.)

Mark
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On 01/22/2014 02:49 PM, skanter123@... wrote:
>
> Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft 
> sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work 
> (not there now so can't try yet).
>
>

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-22 by PianoBench@...

Good afternoon, everyone.

Have you considered calling your software "donationware" instead of "freeware"?

I am prepared to send a donation.

Regards,
PianoBench

On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:



This is a known limitation of the current version, and covering up the hole in the diskette won't make a difference. 1.44 MB Disklavier floppy support is already implemented and will be in the next version. (The hold-up has to do with an expired code signing certificate, required to prevent Windows from warning that my software is untrusted and will destroy your computer. The renewal will cost me about $500, just for the privilege of publishing free software.)

Mark


On 01/22/2014 02:49 PM, skanter123@... wrote:

Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work (not there now so can't try yet).




Re: [disklavier] Re: External floppy

2014-01-22 by Sam Kanter

Oh, OK - now I know. No big deal, not essential that I hear Yamaha sample disk. Most of the disks I have are 720KB, and they read perfectly. Thanks so much for writing this program!

Sam Kanter
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:


This is a known limitation of the current version, and covering up the hole in the diskette won't make a difference. 1.44 MB Disklavier floppy support is already implemented and will be in the next version. (The hold-up has to do with an expired code signing certificate, required to prevent Windows from warning that my software is untrusted and will destroy your computer. The renewal will cost me about $500, just for the privilege of publishing free software.)

Mark


On 01/22/2014 02:49 PM, skanter123@... wrote:

Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work (not there now so can't try yet).



Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-22 by Alan Dorschug

Check the website.


All donations are welcome.


http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
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-----Original Message-----
From: PianoBench <PianoBench@...>
To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] External floppy



  
    
                  
Good afternoon, everyone.


Have you considered calling your software "donationware" instead of "freeware"? 


I am prepared to send a donation.


Regards,
PianoBench


On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@...> wrote:







This is a known limitation of the current version, and covering up the hole in  the diskette won't make a difference.  1.44 MB Disklavier floppy support is already implemented and will be in the next version.  (The hold-up has to do with an expired code signing certificate, required to prevent Windows from warning that my software is untrusted and will destroy your computer.  The renewal will cost me about $500, just for the privilege of publishing free software.)

Mark


On 01/22/2014 02:49 PM, skanter123@gmail.com wrote:

 
Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work (not there now so can't try yet).

Re: [disklavier] External floppy

2014-01-22 by Skanter123

I just made a donation.  I encourage others to do the same - Mark's utilities are priceless!

Sam 
www.keyboardcollective.com
(212) 684-3304
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> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Alan Dorschug <ISKI1@...> wrote:
> 
> Check the website.
> 
> 
> All donations are welcome.
> 
> http://www.kinura.net/ppfbu/
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PianoBench <PianoBench@aol.com>
> To: disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] External floppy
> 
>  
> Good afternoon, everyone.
> 
> Have you considered calling your software "donationware" instead of "freeware"? 
> 
> I am prepared to send a donation.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mark Fontana <mark@kinura.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is a known limitation of the current version, and covering up the hole in the diskette won't make a difference.  1.44 MB Disklavier floppy support is already implemented and will be in the next version.  (The hold-up has to do with an expired code signing certificate, required to prevent Windows from warning that my software is untrusted and will destroy your computer.  The renewal will cost me about $500, just for the privilege of publishing free software.)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On 01/22/2014 02:49 PM, skanter123@... wrote:
>>>  
>>> Mark, PPFUB works great on 720KB disks, but would not read a Pianosoft sample disk that is 1.4MB DD. Will covering up hole with tape work (not there now so can't try yet).
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
>

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