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2014-12-15 by scott.cammack@...
Hello fellow Disklavier lovers!
Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol).
Happy Holidays!!!
Scott
2014-12-15 by Carol Beigel
Thank you Scott - that was certainly, er.., special! I never heard it quite that way! I should also mention that for all his silliness, Scott successfully replaced his floppy drive with one of those fancy German-made SD card readers! (Did I get that right?) Thank Heavens for engineers! Carol
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! > > > > Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). > > > > http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s <http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s> > > Happy Holidays!!! > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > >
2014-12-16 by Skanter123
Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! > > > > Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). > > > > http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s > > > > Happy Holidays!!! > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > >
2014-12-16 by Jorge Fernández Moreno
Very nice, happy holidays to you Saludos. Enviado desde mi iPhone
> El 15/12/2014, a las 17:39, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> escribió: > > Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! > > > > Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). > > > > http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s > > > > Happy Holidays!!! > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > >
2014-12-16 by George Frederick Litterst
Good evening, everyone. Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! Regards, PianoBench
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! > > For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... <mailto:scott.cammack@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >> >> >> >> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >> >> >> >> http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s <http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s> >> >> Happy Holidays!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
2014-12-16 by Skanter123
Bill, if I remember correctly, we used a demo version of Internet MIDI by Time Warp Technologies: http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php Very nice UI, after a few glitches we got it going. Amazing to play each other's pianos from different cities! It would be great if my piano students had DKVs, but otherwise I haven't found a practical use for this marvel. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Good evening, everyone. > > > Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! > > Regards, > PianoBench > > >> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >> >> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>> >>> >>> >>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>> >>> >>> >>> http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy Holidays!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
2014-12-16 by Sam Kanter
Bill, FYI Scott has an MX100B, I have an MPX100II. Older instruments, but able to use MIDI and the Internet. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Good evening, everyone. > > > Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! > > Regards, > PianoBench > > >> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >> >> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>> >>> >>> >>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>> >>> >>> >>> http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy Holidays!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott >>> > >
2014-12-16 by Skanter123
George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Good evening, everyone. > > > Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! > > Regards, > PianoBench > > >> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >> >> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>> >>> >>> >>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>> >>> >>> >>> http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy Holidays!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
2014-12-16 by George Frederick Litterst
(I changed the title of this thread.) Good morning, everyone. Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. Regards, George a.k.a PianoBench George F. Litterst TimeWarp Technologies "changing the tempo in music software" GLitterst@... <mailto:GLitterst@...>
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> Good evening, everyone. >> >> >> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >> >> Regards, >> PianoBench >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>> >>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... <mailto:scott.cammack@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>> >>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s <http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s> >>>> >>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
2014-12-16 by Skanter123
George, thanks for the info about Internet MIDI - a fascinating technology. It certainly worked well for Scott and me in the brief experiment we had. I haven't done Skype lessons up until now, but am considering it. I think using Internet MIDI might be the way to go. If you have any more info on setting up Skype/IM lessons, please let me know...thanks. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:36 AM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > (I changed the title of this thread.) > > > Good morning, everyone. > > Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. > > We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. > > Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. > > We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! > > (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) > > Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). > > If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! > > One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. > > If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. > > The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. > > Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. > > Regards, > George a.k.a PianoBench > > George F. Litterst > TimeWarp Technologies > "changing the tempo in music software" > GLitterst@... > >> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good evening, everyone. >>> >>> >>> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >>> >>> Regards, >>> PianoBench >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@...m [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>>> >>>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] < >>>>> disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>> > >
2014-12-17 by scott.cammack@...
2014-12-17 by PianoBench@...
Good evening, everyone. Sam, there is quite a bit of material about the program in this section of our website: http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php <http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php> including a number of videos that show the program being used in a variety of contexts. The program has features that cover such a broad spectrum of uses that few people will use them all. And, I think that there are a lot of features that one will probably not use when teaching long distance lessons for the first time but which may become quite handy in the future. For example, the program has a built-in record/playback feature that enables you to record the student or yourself and playback the recording at both ends of the connection. You can change the playback tempo, start playback from any location, save the recording to a new file, and even load and play an existing MIDI recording. There is no singe, correct way to use features like that in a lesson. It’s all a matter of one’s teaching style and teaching objectives. Regards, George
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > George, thanks for the info about Internet MIDI - a fascinating technology. It certainly worked well for Scott and me in the brief experiment we had. I haven't done Skype lessons up until now, but am considering it. I think using Internet MIDI might be the way to go. If you have any more info on setting up Skype/IM lessons, please let me know...thanks. > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:36 AM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> (I changed the title of this thread.) >> >> >> Good morning, everyone. >> >> Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. >> >> We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. >> >> Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. >> >> We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php <https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php>). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! >> >> (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) >> >> Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). >> >> If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! >> >> One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. >> >> If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. >> >> The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. >> >> Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. >> >> Regards, >> George a.k.a PianoBench >> >> George F. Litterst >> TimeWarp Technologies >> "changing the tempo in music software" >> GLitterst@timewarptech.com <mailto:GLitterst@...> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Good evening, everyone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> PianoBench >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>>>> >>>>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@gmail.com <mailto:scott.cammack@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s <http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s> >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
2014-12-17 by Skanter123
Scott, thanks for re-posting the report on our experiment. As George has mentioned, the Internet MIDI program is now owned by Time Warp, not Zenph. If I'm incorrect George can fill in the details. It was a year ago, and lots of fun! Sam www.keyboardcollective.com
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:48 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi again! > > > As Sam has already reported, the successful connection of our Disklaviers over the internet was via Internet MIDI. A previous test, using only MIDIRPT required too much fiddling with the router settings, and was thus deemed to be unsuitable for the casual user. > > The original post can be found at message: > 10782Re: Remote DKL lessons > > That message was originally posted on Jan 26, 2014. > > Sorry, I wasn't to make a link to that posting, but it's easy to find using the search feature at the Yahoo Groups webpage for Disklavier. But, for the convenience of our dear members, I have copied the text below this message > > Cheers!! > > Scott > > **************** Begin Copied Text ******************* > > My fellow DKV enthusiasts, > > As noted by Sam earlier, he and I spent some time trying to connect our DKVs over the internet. Here's a run-down of our experiences: > > 1) We first tried to connect using MIDI over the Real Time Protocol (RTPMidi) over the internet. Built into OSX on the Mac is a Network widget, which implements the protocol. You can get free software written by Tobias Erichsen which runs on Windows and implements the same protocol at the following address: > > http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.html > > Given that this software is built into the Mac, and free for Windows, it seemed like a good starting point. Sam and I configured to software, cabled up our computers to the DKVs using MIDI cables, and tried to connect over the internet. > > We ran into a snag here, because as some of you may know the routers at our respective homes try to provide a basic level of security by blocking intrusion of some internet traffic. In our case, the routers rejected to RTPMidi traffic. For those who wish to pursue this route of connection, it would be necessary to map a couple of ports on your router to be forwarded to the computer running the RPTMidi software, and then you could get this working; details for the basic approach can be found on Tobias' site in the tutorial for his software (requires forwarding two successive ports). But that's probably beyond what could be expected of many folks, and as Sam was interested in a solution that just about anyone could use, we began to seek an alternative. > > As had been pointed out in this group earlier, Zenph sells a software package that provides for connection of Midi devices over the internet, and you can download a Demo version to try it out. Here's the link: > > http://www.zenph.com/im2 > > The Demo has full functionality, but is limited to running for 15 mins at a time, and you can only run it 29 times total. We both downloaded the demo (I got the Mac version, he got the Windows version). About the only setup we had to do was to enable connections from the internet via a checkbox. Then I entered his public IP address into a dialog box, hit a 'Connect' button, and voila! we were able to play each other's Disklavier! It was a very exciting moment for us both! > > There was one potential glitch that we ran across: It seems that my MX100B was designed so that it *always* does a Midi Thru function, and I couldn't find any way to turn this off. Sam's later model (I think he has a Mark II) has a setting for enabling Midi Thru. At any rate, since my MX100B always does Midi Thru, when Sam would send Midi to play my DKV, then the data would be replicated via Midi Thru, and resent back to him. The result was that, after a slight delay, his piano would also play back the same notes he had sent to my piano. So this little problem was a bit of a nuisance, but only slightly diminished our enjoyment. > > As it turns out, there are selectable buttons on the Zenph Internet Midi which enable you to disable either the incoming or the outgoing Midi messages, and by temporarily turning off my outgoing Midi messages I was able to make it so that Sam could play my DKV from his without the notes being echoed back to him after a delay. > > I think that our little experiment was a lot of fun, and encourage anyone else who is interested to try it out. Sam is considering whether it would make a useful tool for piano instruction with remote users (would of course work with any Midi keyboard, not just the DKV). Feel free to direct any questions you may have to either Sam or me. > > > >
2014-12-17 by PianoBench@...
Good evening, again. Thanks for the additional detail, Scott and Sam, as well for the text of the earlier post. Zenph Sound Innovations is out of business and Internet MIDI is now back in the hands of the original developers at TimeWarp Technologies. Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT are quite remarkable but are engineered for local area networks. There are quite a number of things that Internet MIDI does that Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT do not do: —Option to connect over the Internet by buddy name as opposed to IP addresses —Adjustable buffering so that you can coordinate the MIDI playback with incoming video from a program like Skype —Alternatively, automatic buffering that adjusts to the changing latency conditions on the Internet —Correct performance of data packets that are received out of time —Graceful and accurate playback despite dropped data packets —Automatic and manual control over the Skype microphone and camera(s) Of course many of the things mentioned in my list are much more of a concern when the connection takes place over the Internet. Local area networks are much more stable, especially if they are wired. Internet MIDI also has a unique feature of being able to work effectively and accurately with Disklavier grand pianos that are set to real-time MIDI input. Normally, real-time MIDI input with a Disklavier is a bad idea because notes with high note-on velocities (i.e. loud notes) are played sooner than soft notes. In addition, when notes are rapidly repeated, note-off messages come in so quickly following the note-on messages that the physical keystrokes of the instrument gets interrupted and playback stumbles. For those reasons, the Disklavier is normally set to a 500 ms MID input buffer which gives the instrument time to analyze the incoming MIDI data and adjust the playback timing of the notes appropriately. Internet MIDI is capable of doing the same thing but uses just a 250 ms buffer for this purpose. This is important if you are trying to coordinate playback with Skype or another video conferencing program. With a 500 ms delay buffer, Disklavier playback will always be late compared to the incoming Skype video. Regards, George
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Scott, thanks for re-posting the report on our experiment. As George has mentioned, the Internet MIDI program is now owned by Time Warp, not Zenph. If I'm incorrect George can fill in the details. It was a year ago, and lots of fun! > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> > > > > > > > On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:48 PM, scott.cammack@... <mailto:scott.cammack@gmail.com> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> Hi again! >> >> >> As Sam has already reported, the successful connection of our Disklaviers over the internet was via Internet MIDI. A previous test, using only MIDIRPT required too much fiddling with the router settings, and was thus deemed to be unsuitable for the casual user. >> >> The original post can be found at message: >> 10782Re: Remote DKL lessons >> >> That message was originally posted on Jan 26, 2014. >> >> Sorry, I wasn't to make a link to that posting, but it's easy to find using the search feature at the Yahoo Groups webpage for Disklavier. But, for the convenience of our dear members, I have copied the text below this message >> >> < /div> >> Cheers!! >> >> Scott >> >> **************** Begin Copied Text ******************* >> >> My fellow DKV enthusiasts, >> >> As noted by Sam earlier, he and I spent some time trying to connect our DKVs over the internet. Here's a run-down of our experiences: >> >> 1) We first tried to connect using MIDI over the Real Time Protocol (RTPMidi) over the internet. Built into OSX on the Mac is a Network widget, which implements the protocol. You can get free software written by Tobias Erichsen which runs on Windows and implements the same protocol at the following address: >> >> http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.html <http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.ht%20ml> >> >> Given that this software is built into the Mac, and free for Windows, it seemed like a good starting point. Sam and I configured to software, cabled up our computers to the DKVs using MIDI cables, and tried to connect over the internet. >> >> We ran into a snag here, because as some of you may know the routers at our respective homes try to provide a basic level of security by blocking intrusion of some internet traffic. In our case, the routers rejected to RTPMidi traffic. For those who wish to pursue this route of connection, it would be necessary to map a couple of ports on your router to be forwarded to the computer running the RPTMidi software, and then you could get this working; details for the basic approach can be found on T obias' site in the tutorial for his software (requires forwarding two successive ports). But that's probably beyond what could be expected of many folks, and as Sam was interested in a solution that just about anyone could use, we began to seek an alternative. >> >> As had been pointed out in this group earlier, Zenph sells a software package that provides for connection of Midi devices over the internet, and you can download a Demo version to try it out. Here's the link: >> >> http://www.zenph.com/im2 <http://www.zenph.com/im2> >> >> The Demo has full functionality, but is limited to running for 15 mins at a time, and you can only run it 29 times total. We both download ed the demo (I got the Mac version, he got the Windows version). About the only setup we had to do was to enable connections from the internet via a checkbox. Then I entered his public IP address into a dialog box, hit a 'Connect' button, and voila! we were able to play each other's Disklavier! It was a very exciting moment for us both! >> >> There was one potential glitch that we ran across: It seems that my MX100B was designed so that it *always* does a Midi Thru function, and I couldn't find any way to turn this off. Sam's later model (I think he has a Mark II) has a setting for enabling Midi Thru. At any rate, since my MX100B always does Midi Thru, when Sam would send Midi to play my DKV, then the data would be replicated via Midi Thru, and resent back to him. The result was that, after a slight delay, his piano would also play back the same no tes he had sent to my piano. So this little problem was a bit of a nuisance, but only slightly diminished our enjoyment. >> >> As it turns out, there are selectable buttons on the Zenph Internet Midi which enable you to disable either the incoming or the outgoing Midi messages, and by temporarily turning off my outgoing Midi messages I was able to make it so that Sam could play my DKV from his without the notes being echoed back to him after a delay. >> >> I think that our little experiment was a lot of fun, and encourage anyone else who is interested to try it out. Sam is considering whether it would make a useful tool for piano instruction with remote users (would of course work with any Midi keyboard, not just the DKV). Feel free to direct any questions you may have to either Sam or me. >> >> >> >> > >
2014-12-17 by Skanter123
George, my teaching style is very personal and improvisatory, and I use many computer programs, books, and other technical resources and acoustic instruments in my studio as an adjunct to lessons. It's difficult for me to imagine teaching remotely with the quality I now have, but I am still intrigued by the idea as I get calls from people all over the country who are interested in studying with me. I've looked at the remote teaching videos on the site - and saw the lesson with you as the student (it brought back memories as I had played that same Clementi Sonantina as a child and remembered every note). Remote lessons seem fine for traditional classical teaching (student plays piece for teacher, teacher makes corrections and plays it to show student improved version). But I teach jazz, pop, theory and improvisation as well as classical, which don't lend themselves as easily to those traditional methods. Still intrigued, and thinking how I might teach using this fascinating technology. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:52 PM, PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Good evening, everyone. > > > Sam, there is quite a bit of material about the program in this section of our website: > > http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php > > including a number of videos that show the program being used in a variety of contexts. > > The program has features that cover such a broad spectrum of uses that few people will use them all. And, I think that there are a lot of features that one will probably not use when teaching long distance lessons for the first time but which may become quite handy in the future. > > For example, the program has a built-in record/playback feature that enables you to record the student or yourself and playback the recording at both ends of the connection. You can change the playback tempo, start playback from any location, save the recording to a new file, and even load and play an existing MIDI recording. > > There is no singe, correct way to use features like that in a lesson. It’s all a matter of one’s teaching style and teaching objectives. > > Regards, > George > > >> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> George, thanks for the info about Internet MIDI - a fascinating technology. It certainly worked well for Scott and me in the brief experiment we had. I haven't done Skype lessons up until now, but am considering it. I think using Internet MIDI might be the way to go. If you have any more info on setting up Skype/IM lessons, please let me know...thanks. >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:36 AM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> (I changed the title of this thread.) >>> >>> >>> Good morning, everyone. >>> >>> Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. >>> >>> We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. >>> >>> Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. >>> >>> We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! >>> >>> (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) >>> >>> Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). >>> >>> If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! >>> >>> One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. >>> >>> If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. >>> >>> The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. >>> >>> Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> George a.k.a PianoBench >>> >>> George F. Litterst >>> TimeWarp Technologies >>> "changing the tempo in music software" >>> GLitterst@timewarptech.com >>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@aol.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good evening, everyone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> PianoBench >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>>>>> >>>>>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] < >>>>>>> disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >
2014-12-17 by Spencer Chase
Good evening, again.
Thanks for the additional detail, Scott and Sam, as well for the text of the earlier post.
Zenph Sound Innovations is out of business and Internet MIDI is now back in the hands of the original developers at TimeWarp Technologies.
Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT are quite remarkable but are engineered for local area networks. There are quite a number of things that Internet MIDI does that Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT do not do:
—Option to connect over the Internet by buddy name as opposed to IP addresses
—Adjustable buffering so that you can coordinate the MIDI playback with incoming video from a program like Skype
—Alternatively, automatic buffering that adjusts to the changing latency conditions on the Internet
—Correct performance of data packets that are received out of time
—Graceful and accurate playback despite dropped data packets
—Automatic and manual control over the Skype microphone and camera(s)
Of course many of the things mentioned in my list are much more of a concern when the connection takes place over the Internet. Local area networks are much more stable, especially if they are wired.
Internet MIDI also has a unique feature of being able to work effectively and accurately with Disklavier grand pianos that are set to real-time MIDI input. Normally, real-time MIDI input with a Disklavier is a bad idea because notes with high note-on velocities (i.e. loud notes) are played sooner than soft notes. In addition, when notes are rapidly repeated, note-off messages come in so quickly following the note-on messages that the physical keystrokes of the instrument gets interrupted and playback stumbles.
For those reasons, the Disklavier is normally set to a 500 ms MID input buffer which gives the instrument time to analyze the incoming MIDI data and adjust the playback timing of the notes appropriately.
Internet MIDI is capable of doing the same thing but uses just a 250 ms buffer for this purpose. This is important if you are trying to coordinate playback with Skype or another video conferencing program. With a 500 ms delay buffer, Disklavier playback will always be late compared to the incoming Skype video.
Regards,George
On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Scott, thanks for re-posting the report on our experiment. As George has mentioned, the Internet MIDI program is now owned by Time Warp, not Zenph. If I'm incorrect George can fill in the details. It was a year ago, and lots of fun!
SamHi again!
As Sam has already reported, the successful connection of our Disklaviers over the internet was via Internet MIDI. A previous test, using only MIDIRPT required too much fiddling with the router settings, and was thus deemed to be unsuitable for the casual user.
The original post can be found at message:10782Re: Remote DKL lessons
That message was originally posted on Jan 26, 2014.
Sorry, I wasn't to make a link to that posting, but it's easy to find using the search feature at the Yahoo Groups webpage for Disklavier. But, for the convenience of our dear members, I have copied the text below this message
< /div>Cheers!!
Scott
**************** Begin Copied Text *******************
My fellow DKV enthusiasts,
As noted by Sam earlier, he and I spent some time trying to connect our DKVs over the internet. Here's a run-down of our experiences:
1) We first tried to connect using MIDI over the Real Time Protocol (RTPMidi) over the internet. Built into OSX on the Mac is a Network widget, which implements the protocol. You can get free software written by Tobias Erichsen which runs on Windows and implements the same protocol at the following address:
Given that this software is built into the Mac, and free for Windows, it seemed like a good starting point. Sam and I configured to software, cabled up our computers to the DKVs using MIDI cables, and tried to connect over the internet.
We ran into a snag here, because as some of you may know the routers at our respective homes try to provide a basic level of security by blocking intrusion of some internet traffic. In our case, the routers rejected to RTPMidi traffic. For those who wish to pursue this route of connection, it would be necessary to map a couple of ports on your router to be forwarded to the computer running the RPTMidi software, and then you could get this working; details for the basic approach can be found on T obias' site in the tutorial for his software (requires forwarding two successive ports). But that's probably beyond what could be expected of many folks, and as Sam was interested in a solution that just about anyone could use, we began to seek an alternative.
As had been pointed out in this group earlier, Zenph sells a software package that provides for connection of Midi devices over the internet, and you can download a Demo version to try it out. Here's the link:
The Demo has full functionality, but is limited to running for 15 mins at a time, and you can only run it 29 times total. We both download ed the demo (I got the Mac version, he got the Windows version). About the only setup we had to do was to enable connections from the internet via a checkbox. Then I entered his public IP address into a dialog box, hit a 'Connect' button, and voila! we were able to play each other's Disklavier! It was a very exciting moment for us both!
There was one potential glitch that we ran across: It seems that my MX100B was designed so that it *always* does a Midi Thru function, and I couldn't find any way to turn this off. Sam's later model (I think he has a Mark II) has a setting for enabling Midi Thru. At any rate, since my MX100B always does Midi Thru, when Sam would send Midi to play my DKV, then the data would be replicated via Midi Thru, and resent back to him. The result was that, after a slight delay, his piano would also play back the same no tes he had sent to my piano. So this little problem was a bit of a nuisance, but only slightly diminished our enjoyment.
As it turns out, there are selectable buttons on the Zenph Internet Midi which enable you to disable either the incoming or the outgoing Midi messages, and by temporarily turning off my outgoing Midi messages I was able to make it so that Sam could play my DKV from his without the notes being echoed back to him after a delay.
I think that our little experiment was a lot of fun, and encourage anyone else who is interested to try it out. Sam is considering whether it would make a useful tool for piano instruction with remote users (would of course work with any Midi keyboard, not just the DKV). Feel free to direct any questions you may have to either Sam or me.
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (425) 791-0309
2014-12-17 by PianoBench@...
Sam, This is not an attempt to talk you into teaching long distance. That is a complex, personal issue. I’ll just mention that I know several college educators in the jazz field who have embraced long distance teaching, focusing on contemporary improvisational styles. One noteworthy institution, in particular, is setting up a long distance connection to a satellite institution on another continent (more about that after they have done it). Here is a VERY cute video of a youngster taking long distance lessons in improvisation, albeit in a classical style. The lesson is facilitated by Internet MIDI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDCCKLsjtR4#t=13 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDCCKLsjtR4#t=13> The student in this video is an amazingly charming and talented 6 year old. She is now 9 years old and can be found playing piano, violin, and her own compositions in a lot of YouTube posts. Regards, George
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > George, my teaching style is very personal and improvisatory, and I use many computer programs, books, and other technical resources and acoustic instruments in my studio as an adjunct to lessons. It's difficult for me to imagine teaching remotely with the quality I now have, but I am still intrigued by the idea as I get calls from people all over the country who are interested in studying with me. > > I've looked at the remote teaching videos on the site - and saw the lesson with you as the student (it brought back memories as I had played that same Clementi Sonantina as a child and remembered every note). Remote lessons seem fine for traditional classical teaching (student plays piece for teacher, teacher makes corrections and plays it to show student improved version). But I teach jazz, pop, theory and improvisation as well as classical, which don't lend themselves as easily to those traditional methods. > > Still intrigued, and thinking how I might teach using this fascinating technology. > > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:52 PM, PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@aol.com> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> Good evening, everyone. >> >> >> Sam, there is quite a bit of material about the program in this section of our website: >> >> http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php <http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php> >> >> including a number of videos that show the program being used in a variety of contexts. >> >> The program has features that cover such a broad spectrum of uses that few people will use them all. And, I think that there are a lot of features that one will probably not use when teaching long distance lessons for the first time but which may become quite handy in the future. >> >> For example, the program has a built-in record/playback feature that enables you to record the student or yourself and playback the recording at both ends of the connection. You can change the playback tempo, start playback from any location, save the recording to a new file, and even load and play an existing MIDI recording. >> >> There is no singe, correct way to use features like that in a lesson. It’s all a matter of one’s teaching style and teaching objectives. >> >> Regards, >> George >> >> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> George, thanks for the info about Internet MIDI - a fascinating technology. It certainly worked well for Scott and me in the brief experiment we had. I haven't done Skype lessons up until now, but am considering it. I think using Internet MIDI might be the way to go. If you have any more info on setting up Skype/IM lessons, please let me know...thanks. >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:36 AM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> (I changed the title of this thread.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Good morning, everyone. >>>> >>>> Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. >>>> >>>> We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. >>>> >>>> Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. >>>> >>>> We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php <https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php>). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! >>>> >>>> (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) >>>> >>>> Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). >>>> >>>> If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! >>>> >>>> One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. >>>> >>>> If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. >>>> >>>> The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. >>>> >>>> Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> George a.k.a PianoBench >>>> >>>> George F. Litterst >>>> TimeWarp Technologies >>>> "changing the tempo in music software" >>>> GLitterst@... <mailto:GLitterst@...> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good evening, everyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> PianoBench >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... <mailto:scott.cammack@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s <http://youtu.be/lTc_tD1xF2s> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
2014-12-17 by PianoBench@...
Good evening, again. Spencer, Zenph Sound Innovations is a company that failed spectacularly. The company downsized to approximately 7 people at the end of February 2012. The assets of the company were foreclosed upon by a bank in June of 2012. Within a couple of days, the directors, officers, and major investors formed a new corporation and within a month ended up owning the assets of Zenph. Along the way, I believe that many or all of the reproducing pianos that were owned by the company were sold. An Internet search for the words Zenph contempt will yield an interesting PDF document from the Court of Chancery of the State of Delaware. I have no idea what may or may not be happening at the new company at this point in time. Regards, PianoBench
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Spencer Chase lists@spencerserolls.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > is zenph totally dead? i have heard mixed opinions. i am interested in their transcriptions for the LX. i have just a few that are great and was hoping for more. > > > On 12/16/2014 7:21 PM, PianoBench@... <mailto:PianoBench@aol.com> [disklavier] wrote: >> >> Good evening, again. >> >> >> Thanks for the additional detail, Scott and Sam, as well for the text of the earlier post. >> >> Zenph Sound Innovations is out of business and Internet MIDI is now back in the hands of the original developers at TimeWarp Technologies. >> >> Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT are quite remarkable but are engineered for local area networks. There are quite a number of things that Internet MIDI does that Network-MIDI and MIDIRPT do not do: >> >> —Option to connect over the Internet by buddy name as opposed to IP addresses >> >> —Adjustable buffering so that you can coordinate the MIDI playback with incoming video from a program like Skype >> >> —Alternatively, automatic buffering that adjusts to the changing latency conditions on the Internet >> >> —Correct performance of data packets that are received out of time >> >> —Graceful and accurate playback despite dropped data packets >> >> —Automatic and manual control over the Skype microphone and camera(s) >> >> Of course many of the things mentioned in my list are much more of a concern when the connection takes place over the Internet. Local area networks are much more stable, especially if they are wired. >> >> Internet MIDI also has a unique feature of being able to work effectively and accurately with Disklavier grand pianos that are set to real-time MIDI input. Normally, real-time MIDI input with a Disklavier is a bad idea because notes with high note-on velocities (i.e. loud notes) are played sooner than soft notes. In addition, when notes are rapidly repeated, note-off messages come in so quickly following the note-on messages that the physical keystrokes of the instrument gets interrupted and playback stumbles. >> >> For those reasons, the Disklavier is normally set to a 500 ms MID input buffer which gives the instrument time to analyze the incoming MIDI data and adjust the playback timing of the notes appropriately. >> >> Internet MIDI is capable of doing the same thing but uses just a 250 ms buffer for this purpose. This is important if you are trying to coordinate playback with Skype or another video conferencing program. With a 500 ms delay buffer, Disklavier playback will always be late compared to the incoming Skype video. >> >> Regards, >> George >> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... <mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Scott, thanks for re-posting the report on our experiment. As George has mentioned, the Internet MIDI program is now owned by Time Warp, not Zenph. If I'm incorrect George can fill in the details. It was a year ago, and lots of fun! >>> >>> Sam >>> www.keyboardcollective.com <http://www.keyboardcollective.com/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:48 PM, scott.cammack@... <mailto:scott.cammack@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi again! >>>> >>>> >>>> As Sam has already reported, the successful connection of our Disklaviers over the internet was via Internet MIDI. A previous test, using only MIDIRPT required too much fiddling with the router settings, and was thus deemed to be unsuitable for the casual user. >>>> >>>> The original post can be found at message: >>>> 10782Re: Remote DKL lessons >>>> >>>> That message was originally posted on Jan 26, 2014. >>>> >>>> Sorry, I wasn't to make a link to that posting, but it's easy to find using the search feature at the Yahoo Groups webpage for Disklavier. But, for the convenience of our dear members, I have copied the text below this message >>>> >>>> < /div> >>>> Cheers!! >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> **************** Begin Copied Text ******************* >>>> >>>> My fellow DKV enthusiasts, >>>> >>>> As noted by Sam earlier, he and I spent some time trying to connect our DKVs over the internet. Here's a run-down of our experiences: >>>> >>>> 1) We first tried to connect using MIDI over the Real Time Protocol (RTPMidi) over the internet. Built into OSX on the Mac is a Network widget, which implements the protocol. You can get free software written by Tobias Erichsen which runs on Windows and implements the same protocol at the following address: >>>> >>>> http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.html <http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.ht%20ml> >>>> >>>> Given that this software is built into the Mac, and free for Windows, it seemed like a good starting point. Sam and I configured to software, cabled up our computers to the DKVs using MIDI cables, and tried to connect over the internet. >>>> >>>> We ran into a snag here, because as some of you may know the routers at our respective homes try to provide a basic level of security by blocking intrusion of some internet traffic. In our case, the routers rejected to RTPMidi traffic. For those who wish to pursue this route of connection, it would be necessary to map a couple of ports on your router to be forwarded to the computer running the RPTMidi software, and then you could get this working; details for the basic approach can be found on T obias' site in the tutorial for his software (requires forwarding two successive ports). But that's probably beyond what could be expected of many folks, and as Sam was interested in a solution that just about anyone could use, we began to seek an alternative. >>>> >>>> As had been pointed out in this group earlier, Zenph sells a software package that provides for connection of Midi devices over the internet, and you can download a Demo version to try it out. Here's the link: >>>> >>>> http://www.zenph.com/im2 <http://www.zenph.com/im2> >>>> >>>> The Demo has full functionality, but is limited to running for 15 mins at a time, and you can only run it 29 times total. We both download ed the demo (I got the Mac version, he got the Windows version). About the only setup we had to do was to enable connections from the internet via a checkbox. Then I entered his public IP address into a dialog box, hit a 'Connect' button, and voila! we were able to play each other's Disklavier! It was a very exciting moment for us both! >>>> >>>> There was one potential glitch that we ran across: It seems that my MX100B was designed so that it *always* does a Midi Thru function, and I couldn't find any way to turn this off. Sam's later model (I think he has a Mark II) has a setting for enabling Midi Thru. At any rate, since my MX100B always does Midi Thru, when Sam would send Midi to play my DKV, then the data would be replicated via Midi Thru, and resent back to him. The result was that, after a slight delay, his piano would also play back the same no tes he had sent to my piano. So this little problem was a bit of a nuisance, but only slightly diminished our enjoyment. >>>> >>>> As it turns out, there are selectable buttons on the Zenph Internet Midi which enable you to disable either the incoming or the outgoing Midi messages, and by temporarily turning off my outgoing Midi messages I was able to make it so that Sam could play my DKV from his without the notes being echoed back to him after a delay. >>>> >>>> I think that our little experiment was a lot of fun, and encourage anyone else who is interested to try it out. Sam is considering whether it would make a useful tool for piano instruction with remote users (would of course work with any Midi keyboard, not just the DKV). Feel free to direct any questions you may have to either Sam or me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- > > Best regards, Spencer Chase > 67550-Bell Springs Rd. > Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. > Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. > Spencer@spencerserolls.com <mailto:Spencer@...> > http://www.spencerserolls.com <http://www.spencerserolls.com/> > (425) 791-0309 > >
2014-12-17 by Skanter123
George, cute video - I liked the call and response improvising between teacher and student. And the angel's wings! I certainly know you are not trying to convince me of anything. The truth is that I love music technology (I was one of the first people to own a MIDI synth in the early 80's) have been involved in teaching music, MID and synthesis for 40 years. I adore my newly acquired Disklavier (one year anniversary this week). I like the idea of remote teaching, but will have to rethink my methods to make it work in this new challenging way. Perhaps some people on this list might want to be guinea pigs and get a free trial lesson while I get my feet wet? It would be ideal (and fun) teaching from DKV to DKV. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:21 PM, PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Sam, > > > This is not an attempt to talk you into teaching long distance. That is a complex, personal issue. > > I’ll just mention that I know several college educators in the jazz field who have embraced long distance teaching, focusing on contemporary improvisational styles. One noteworthy institution, in particular, is setting up a long distance connection to a satellite institution on another continent (more about that after they have done it). > > Here is a VERY cute video of a youngster taking long distance lessons in improvisation, albeit in a classical style. The lesson is facilitated by Internet MIDI: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDCCKLsjtR4#t=13 > > The student in this video is an amazingly charming and talented 6 year old. She is now 9 years old and can be found playing piano, violin, and her own compositions in a lot of YouTube posts. > > Regards, > George > > >> On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> George, my teaching style is very personal and improvisatory, and I use many computer programs, books, and other technical resources and acoustic instruments in my studio as an adjunct to lessons. It's difficult for me to imagine teaching remotely with the quality I now have, but I am still intrigued by the idea as I get calls from people all over the country who are interested in studying with me. >> >> I've looked at the remote teaching videos on the site - and saw the lesson with you as the student (it brought back memories as I had played that same Clementi Sonantina as a child and remembered every note). Remote lessons seem fine for traditional classical teaching (student plays piece for teacher, teacher makes corrections and plays it to show student improved version). But I teach jazz, pop, theory and improvisation as well as classical, which don't lend themselves as easily to those traditional methods. >> >> Still intrigued, and thinking how I might teach using this fascinating technology. >> >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:52 PM, PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good evening, everyone. >>> >>> >>> Sam, there is quite a bit of material about the program in this section of our website: >>> >>> http://www.timewarptech.com/internetmidi.php >>> >>> including a number of videos that show the program being used in a variety of contexts. >>> >>> The program has features that cover such a broad spectrum of uses that few people will use them all. And, I think that there are a lot of features that one will probably not use when teaching long distance lessons for the first time but which may become quite handy in the future. >>> >>> For example, the program has a built-in record/playback feature that enables you to record the student or yourself and playback the recording at both ends of the connection. You can change the playback tempo, start playback from any location, save the recording to a new file, and even load and play an existing MIDI recording. >>> >>> There is no singe, correct way to use features like that in a lesson. It’s all a matter of one’s teaching style and teaching objectives. >>> >>> Regards, >>> George >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> George, thanks for the info about Internet MIDI - a fascinating technology. It certainly worked well for Scott and me in the brief experiment we had. I haven't done Skype lessons up until now, but am considering it. I think using Internet MIDI might be the way to go. If you have any more info on setting up Skype/IM lessons, please let me know...thanks. >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:36 AM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (I changed the title of this thread.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good morning, everyone. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Sam, I am the architect of Internet MIDI, which is published by my company, TimeWarp Technologies (www.timewarptech). However, I am not the brilliant guy who writes the code. >>>>> >>>>> We started work on this program in the early 2000s. Regrettably we sold our various software programs to another company in 2011, and that company ultimately went out of business. On July 31 of this year, we finally got our assets back. We have a new website up, have restored customer accounts, rebranded our programs, and are now vigorously working on new features for existing programs as well as new apps. >>>>> >>>>> Other apps that we publish include Home Concert Xtreme—an intelligent, play-along environment for Mac, PC, and iPad—and Classroom Maestro, an intelligent music blackboard program that facilitates classroom and private music instruction. >>>>> >>>>> We also sell some terrific, fully orchestrated Christmas play-along MIDI files from Christopher Norton and Novus Via Music Group for use with Home Concert Xtreme (https://timewarptech.com/musicfiles-christmas.php). Imagine reading your music off the computer or iPad screen while Home Concert Xtreme tracks your playing on the Disklavier, turns the pages automatically, and outputs a musically coordinated accompaniment! >>>>> >>>>> (Note: The Christmas MIDI files on our site from Bradley Sowash are cool files for use with digital pianos, but they are not designed for use with the Disklavier.) >>>>> >>>>> Internet MIDI was designed as a program for connecting any 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet. You can, for example, connect a Clavinova or AvantGrand to a Disklavier and vice versa. The program is capable of sending the full spectrum of 16 channels of MIDI data. It also has features for coordinating specifically with the Disklavier’s Delay In and Real Time MIDI Input modes (under the heading of “Adjustments for Local Acoustic Piano” on the MIDI Setup page of Internet MIDI). >>>>> >>>>> If you have kids or grandkids that live in another location, Internet MIDI can musically bring the family together over the holidays! >>>>> >>>>> One of the nifty things about Internet MIDI is its ability to control the microphone and cameras in Skype. For example, if you are simultaneously running Skype when your piano is connected to another one over the Internet, you don’t want to send the audio of your playing over Skype while simultaneously sending the MIDI data. Internet MIDI has a feature that will automatically mute the Skype microphone when you play. >>>>> >>>>> If you have multiple cameras set up and accessible to Skype, you can set a MIDI trigger within Internet MIDI to tell Skype to switch from one camera to another. For example, if you have a Disklavier grand with a sostenuto pedal, you could assign that pedal to be the trigger that switches the camera. Alternatively, you could designate a key that you otherwise don’t intend to play, such as the highest or lowest note on the piano. When a key is designated as a MIDI trigger for the camera, that note is not sent to the other piano as a MIDI note. >>>>> >>>>> The camera switching function is a lot of fun, especially since it works in both directions. If you make the correct settings in Internet MIDI on both ends of the connection, you can tell the remote computer to switch cameras. >>>>> >>>>> Just yesterday we posted an updated Internet MIDI for Mac on our website (including an updated demo version). It will enable you to switch among as many as 9 cameras in Skype. We are currently working on an update to the Windows version. The current version of Internet MIDI for Windows works great with Skype 6.1.6, and Windows users should stick with that version of Skype until we get the Internet MIDI update completed. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> George a.k.a PianoBench >>>>> >>>>> George F. Litterst >>>>> TimeWarp Technologies >>>>> "changing the tempo in music software" >>>>> GLitterst@... >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> George, I think I saw you in a demo video for Internet MIDI. Did you have something to do with the production of that program? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:24 PM, George Frederick Litterst PianoBench@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good evening, everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam and Scott, please tell us how you managed to connect your Disklaviers together over the Internet! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> PianoBench >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Scott. An unusual rendition! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the others on the list, Scott and I successfully did a MIDI/internet experiment where I played a tune on my DKV and it played on Scott's DKV simultaneously, and he did the same, vice versa. It was great! We should try it again... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:39 PM, scott.cammack@... [disklavier] < >>>>>>>>> disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello fellow Disklavier lovers! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Although I haven't posted in a while, I wanted to send this holiday greeting to each and every one of you, since it wouldn't have been possible without my MX100B Disklavier upright (which I so adore, and which is lovingly maintained by Carol). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://youtu.be/lTc _tD1xF2s >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy Holidays!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >