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Help with Cakewalk

Help with Cakewalk

2003-11-24 by CapZ65

Any users of Cakewalk may be able to help with this. For most midis, 
moving the Acoustic Grand pieces to tracks 1 or 2 is good enough to 
allow the Disklavier to play them. However I found a few that just 
won't save to disk that way. When I reopen the file, the first four 
tracks are empty again. 
I uploaded a file to the site named "absentfriends.mid. It's in 
Yamaha format. If anyone could take a look I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.

Re: Help with Cakewalk

2003-11-24 by bdpotts

CapZ65,

The Cakewalk "track" is not as important as the "Channel" selected 
for the track.

Assuming you are going to create a "Type 1" midi file you usually 
assign the piano right hand to channel 1 and the left hand to channel 
2 and make sure they have the grand piano patch. 

In looking at the piece you uploaded (absentfriends.mid) the "tracks" 
and "channels" are the same.  Track/Channel 6, 7, and 9 have a grand 
piano patch.

Here's what I would do.  For some reason track/channel 6 and 9 have 
the general MIDI grand piano patch.  Since they both have the same 
patch, the can play on the same channel.  I would assign these two 
tracks to channel 1 (double click on each track and change the 
channel to 1).

Track/channel 7 has the XG grand piano patch.  I would assign this 
track to channel 2 by double clicking the track and changing the 
channel to 2.

A third option would be to make all the patches the same (either 
general midi or XG grand piano) and you can mix and match channels 1 
and 2.  If you don't really care and they are all the same patch, 
just put them all to channel 1.

I hope this helps.

Brian

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "CapZ65" <CapZ65@c...> wrote:
> Any users of Cakewalk may be able to help with this. For most 
midis, 
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> moving the Acoustic Grand pieces to tracks 1 or 2 is good enough to 
> allow the Disklavier to play them. However I found a few that just 
> won't save to disk that way. When I reopen the file, the first four 
> tracks are empty again. 
> I uploaded a file to the site named "absentfriends.mid. It's in 
> Yamaha format. If anyone could take a look I'd appreciate it.
> Thanks in advance.

Re: Help with Cakewalk

2003-11-24 by Jorge Fernandez Moreno

And allways save as MIDI FILE TYPE 1 instead of 0.
This way the tracks will be in the order you saved the next time you 
open the file.

If you save as TYPE 0 the file will have ony one "track" with 16 
posible "channels"

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "bdpotts" <bdpotts@a...> wrote:
> CapZ65,
> 
> The Cakewalk "track" is not as important as the "Channel" selected 
> for the track.
> 
> Assuming you are going to create a "Type 1" midi file you usually 
> assign the piano right hand to channel 1 and the left hand to 
channel 
> 2 and make sure they have the grand piano patch. 
> 
> In looking at the piece you uploaded (absentfriends.mid) 
the "tracks" 
> and "channels" are the same.  Track/Channel 6, 7, and 9 have a 
grand 
> piano patch.
> 
> Here's what I would do.  For some reason track/channel 6 and 9 
have 
> the general MIDI grand piano patch.  Since they both have the same 
> patch, the can play on the same channel.  I would assign these two 
> tracks to channel 1 (double click on each track and change the 
> channel to 1).
> 
> Track/channel 7 has the XG grand piano patch.  I would assign this 
> track to channel 2 by double clicking the track and changing the 
> channel to 2.
> 
> A third option would be to make all the patches the same (either 
> general midi or XG grand piano) and you can mix and match channels 
1 
> and 2.  If you don't really care and they are all the same patch, 
> just put them all to channel 1.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Brian
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "CapZ65" <CapZ65@c...> wrote:
> > Any users of Cakewalk may be able to help with this. For most 
> midis, 
> > moving the Acoustic Grand pieces to tracks 1 or 2 is good enough 
to 
> > allow the Disklavier to play them. However I found a few that 
just 
> > won't save to disk that way. When I reopen the file, the first 
four 
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> > tracks are empty again. 
> > I uploaded a file to the site named "absentfriends.mid. It's in 
> > Yamaha format. If anyone could take a look I'd appreciate it.
> > Thanks in advance.

Re: [disklavier] Re: Help with Cakewalk

2003-11-26 by Bob

Many thanks to Brian and Jorge. I'm just starting out and would have been stuck on that for days without your help.
Regards,
Bob
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----- Original Message -----
From: bdpotts
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:11 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Help with Cakewalk

CapZ65,

The Cakewalk "track" is not as important as the "Channel" selected
for the track.

Assuming you are going to create a "Type 1" midi file you usually
assign the piano right hand to channel 1 and the left hand to channel
2 and make sure they have the grand piano patch.

In looking at the piece you uploaded (absentfriends.mid) the "tracks"
and "channels" are the same. Track/Channel 6, 7, and 9 have a grand
piano patch.

Here's what I would do. For some reason track/channel 6 and 9 have
the general MIDI grand piano patch. Since they both have the same
patch, the can play on the same channel. I would assign these two
tracks to channel 1 (double click on each track and change the
channel to 1).

Track/channel 7 has the XG grand piano patch. I would assign this
track to channel 2 by double clicking the track and changing the
channel to 2.

A third option would be to make all the patches the same (either
general midi or XG grand piano) and you can mix and match channels 1
and 2. If you don't really care and they are all the same patch,
just put them all to channel 1.

I hope this helps.

Brian

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "CapZ65" wrote:
> Any users of Cakewalk may be able to help with this. For most
midis,
> moving the Acoustic Grand pieces to tracks 1 or 2 is good enough to
> allow the Disklavier to play them. However I found a few that just
> won't save to disk that way. When I reopen the file, the first four
> tracks are empty again.
> I uploaded a file to the site named "absentfriends.mid. It's in
> Yamaha format. If anyone could take a look I'd appreciate it.
> Thanks in advance.



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