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Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

2000-04-29 by Todd Muncy

Thanks for the warning Jim.  I too have been disappointed with Yamaha software on more than one occasion.  
 
I find it curious that, although I monitor DUG, I only received this message on our egroup board.  I haven't received anything on the DUG group for a few days.  Did anyone see this posting on DUG?

Todd Muncy <(���)>
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Gerren 
  To: disklavier@egroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 1:00 AM
  Subject: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette


  For those of you who don't visit DUG, please read the following 
  message I posted there.
  ===============================================

  Dear Duggers,

  I've been a member of DUG for over three years.  You've never heard 
  from me before as I tend to be a quiet person, usually keeping my 
  opinions and feelings to myself.  But I am now breaking my silence in 
  hopes that other DUG members don't make the same costly mistake I 
  made.

  Being an avid Nat King Cole fan, I've been pondering for several 
  weeks, the purchase of Yamaha's PianoSoft Plus diskette 00506056 - 
  Nat King Cole Collection - "Unforgettable" album.  So, this evening, 
  I went to http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com and downloaded the file.  
  With great anticipation, I immediately inserted the diskette into my 
  disklavier, expecting to hear great music for the next 30 to 40 
  minutes.

  What a disappointment!  The first problem I encountered was over-
  powering bass, having to totally eliminate the bass by adjusting my 
  amplifier bass control.  Apparently, Yamaha doesn't have recording 
  standards relating to volume levels on XG files, as I've found that 
  bass and other instrumentation volume levels, in relation to the 
  piano volume level, can vary widely from disk to disk.

  My second disappointment was with the orchestration accompaniment.  I 
  don't expect synthesized instruments to sound exactly like the 
  instruments they are emulating, although some of the voices do sound 
  remarkably like the real thing.  But bending the pitch of 
  instruments, which does occur on this diskette, is a total turn-off.  
  Obviously, the person(s) making the recording must have thought 
  it "cute".  I didn't.  Additionally, the instrumentation was slightly 
  out of synch with the piano at times.

  As for the pianist?  On a scale of 1 to 10 for professional pianists 
  (which you would expect from Yamaha), I would rate this a 4, and that 
  might be generous.  Timing was a bit off on some songs and, at least 
  to my ears, there were mistakes in the playing.  This is 
  unacceptable, as the file can be edited to remove mistakes.  Perhaps 
  it's just me.  The mistakes were not blatant, but they were there.

  If I didn't know any better, I'd almost guess the songs on this disk 
  were downloaded from one of those midi internet sites where amateur 
  musicians upload their works.  In fact, I've downloaded better from 
  some of those sites.

  And, as if I weren't disappointed enough, the diskette lasted for 
  only 26 minutes!  That's right, 26 minutes for $34.95, and I 
  furnished the double density diskette.  Shame on you, Yamaha.  Where 
  is your PianoSoft quality control?  And don't you feel just a bit 
  guilty for gouging your loyal customers?

  Regards,
  Jim Gerren



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Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

2000-04-29 by Bljoh@aol.com

This message was on the DUG group.
    B L Johnson


In a message dated 4/29/00 6:21:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
disklavier@... writes:

<< Thanks for the warning Jim.  I too have been disappointed with Yamaha 
software on more than one occasion.  
  
 I find it curious that, although I monitor DUG, I only received this message 
on our egroup board.  I haven't received anything on the DUG group for a few 
days.  Did anyone see this posting on DUG?
 
 Todd Muncy <(©¿©)>
 disklavier-owner@MuncyFamily.com
 Check out my family website which includes a disklavier music page.
 http://MuncyFamily.com
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   From: Jim Gerren 
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   Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 1:00 AM
   Subject: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette
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Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

2000-04-29 by ron

Todd:

I did receive the message first on DUG and then on egroups.  There is
minimal activity on DUG probably because of the Easter Holiday!

Jim:
I have the same disk but purchased it off the rack rather than
downloading it.  I did not find the same problem with it that you did.
In fact I am running two Ms60 Yamaha speakers which are "bassy."   You
may have gotten a bad "mix" from the download.  Maybe someone out there
has more info on this.  I am only speculating.

Ron

Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

2000-04-30 by Tom McDonald

Yes. I received it twice -- via DUG and eGroups.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Muncy
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

Thanks for the warning Jim. I too have been disappointed with Yamaha software on more than one occasion.
I find it curious that, although I monitor DUG, I only received this message on our egroup board. I haven't received anything on the DUG group for a few days. Did anyone see this posting on DUG?
Todd Muncy <(©¿©)>
disklavier-owner@MuncyFamily.com
Check out my family website which includes a disklavier music page.
http://MuncyFamily.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Gerren
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 1:00 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Nat King Cole "Unforgettable" Diskette

For those of you who don't visit DUG, please read the following
message I posted there.
===============================================

Dear Duggers,

I've been a member of DUG for over three years. You've never heard
from me before as I tend to be a quiet person, usually keeping my
opinions and feelings to myself. But I am now breaking my silence in
hopes that other DUG members don't make the same costly mistake I
made.

Being an avid Nat King Cole fan, I've been pondering for several
weeks, the purchase of Yamaha's PianoSoft Plus diskette 00506056 -
Nat King Cole Collection - "Unforgettable" album. So, this evening,
I went to http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com and downloaded the file.
With great anticipation, I immediately inserted the diskette into my
disklavier, expecting to hear great music for the next 30 to 40
minutes.

What a disappointment! The first problem I encountered was over-
powering bass, having to totally eliminate the bass by adjusting my
amplifier bass control. Apparently, Yamaha doesn't have recording
standards relating to volume levels on XG files, as I've found that
bass and other instrumentation volume levels, in relation to the
piano volume level, can vary widely from disk to disk.

My second disappointment was with the orchestration accompaniment. I
don't expect synthesized instruments to sound exactly like the
instruments they are emulating, although some of the voices do sound
remarkably like the real thing. ; But bending the pitch of
instruments, which does occur on this diskette, is a total turn-off.
Obviously, the person(s) making the recording must have thought
it "cute". I didn't. Additionally, the instrumentation was slightly
out of synch with the piano at times.

As for the pianist? On a scale of 1 to 10 for professional pianists
(which you would expect from Yamaha), I would rate this a 4, and that
might be generous. Timing was a bit off on some songs and, at least
to my ears, there were mistakes in the playing. This is
unacceptable, as the file can be edited to remove mistakes. Perhaps
it's just me. The mistakes were not blatant, but they were there.

If I didn't know any better, I'd almost guess the songs on this disk
were downloaded from one of those midi internet sites where amateur
musicians upload their works. In fact, I've downloaded better from
some of those sites.

And, as if I weren't disappointed enough, the diskette lasted for
only 26 minutes! That's right, 26 minutes for $34.95, and I
furnished the double density diskette. Shame on you, Yamaha. Where
is your PianoSoft quality control? And don't you feel just a bit
guilty for gouging your loyal customers?

Regards,
Jim Gerren


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http://MuncyFamily.com

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Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
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To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...

To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
disklavier-owner@egroups.com

To reach our group's web site go to:
http://egroups.com/group/disklavier

To visit Todd's family web site that contains some fun disklavier content among other things, go to:
http://MuncyFamily.com

THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
disklavier-unsubscribe@...

Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
disklavier-subscribe@...

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