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Midi File Organization

2005-11-05 by Fred Dismuke

Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) and
upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and have not
until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my computer
now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings of this
user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and or
course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely thrilled with
the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums to the
hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and effort
culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to about 1500
pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but do
sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion other than
alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside, such
as by genre, artist and so on. I have not found in these hallowed
archives or on the net, any type of file utility of the style used for
mp3 music files in which to classify my repertoire. The mp3 utilities,
though designed for music will not recognize the midi file extension.
Windows XP has allowed for additional file information in its
properties but will not allow for easy entry or searching on this. 

I am hoping someone may have blundered upon what has so far eluded me.
Any recommendations? 

Thanks again for this cite and the wealth of knowledge that it holds.

Fred Dismuke
Juliette, Georgia

Re: [disklavier] Midi File Organization

2005-11-05 by George F. Litterst

Good evening, everyone.

Have you tried iTunes? iTunes will play MIDI files on both Windows  
and Macintosh computers. It has rather extensive cataloging features.

When iTunes plays a MIDI file, it outputs the MIDI data to QuickTime.  
On Windows you can use the QT control panel to route the MIDI data to  
General MIDI (as opposed to the built-in QT tone generator). Then, if  
you set your system-wide MIDI output default to a MIDI interface  
connected to your Disklavier, MIDI playback from iTunes will be heard  
on your Disklavier.

Here are the exact instructions for setting the system-wide MIDI  
default on different Windows systems:

Windows 98
Start:Settings:Control Panel:Multimedia
click the Multimedia tab in the Multimedia Properties window
choose Single Instrument
under Single Instrument, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Windows ME and Windows 2000
Start:Settings:Control Panel:Sounds and Multimedia Properties
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Multimedia Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Windows XP
Start:Control Panel
(1) if the next window is set to Categories View, click Sounds,  
Speech, and Audio Devices
then click Sounds and Audio Devices
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

or

(2) if the next window is set to Classic View, click Sounds and Audio  
Devices
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Regrettably, this is not possible on the Mac under OS X although (1)  
it was possible (by convoluted means) to do so under OS 9 and (2) the  
OS X documentation says that it is possible.

NOTE: iTunes can also play PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs on either a Mac  
or Windows computer if you route your audio cables appropriately to a  
Mark III or other Disklavier with DCD1 or (in the future) Mark IV. Be  
sure to turn off the iTunes playback feature called Sound Enhancer.

Regards,
PianoBench
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On Nov 5, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Fred Dismuke wrote:

> Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) and
> upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and have not
> until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my computer
> now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings of this
> user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
> acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and or
> course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely thrilled with
> the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums to the
> hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and effort
> culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to about 1500
> pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but do
> sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion other than
> alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside, such
> as by genre, artist and so on. I have not found in these hallowed
> archives or on the net, any type of file utility of the style used for
> mp3 music files in which to classify my repertoire. The mp3 utilities,
> though designed for music will not recognize the midi file extension.
> Windows XP has allowed for additional file information in its
> properties but will not allow for easy entry or searching on this.
>
> I am hoping someone may have blundered upon what has so far eluded me.
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks again for this cite and the wealth of knowledge that it holds.
>
> Fred Dismuke
> Juliette, Georgia
>
>
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Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-06 by Fred Dismuke

Hello,
Thank you for your very prompt response George. I did download and
install iTunes and as you wrote, it had a fabulously robust comment
and search capability. I moved a few MIDIs into it and after a bit of
finagling was able to coax output from the Disklavier. Though iTunes
did reclassify the MIDI sequences as QuickTime Movies, it routed the
piano and ensemble to my DSR1 for execution. Solos played flawlessly
but I did find that iTunes apparently skims the first 2-3 tracks of
the sequence for piano (as it darned well should be) but
unfortunately, any other voice assigned to those tracks will also be
sent out the midi port as a piano part. Drums sound unique played on a
piano.

My ESEQ converted files from Yamaha are or course arranged properly
for this format. However, the DSR1 has spoiled me rotten, as it will
glean keyboard tracks and route them to the Disklavier regardless of
track (arrangement or even quantity.) 

The only problem that remains is the many hundreds of files that were
sequenced without regard to this layout convention with many lacking
any or at least enough blank tracks to which to relocate voices
allowing for iTunes' piano exclusive tracks. Compounded by many
arrangements with several piano tracks that would require
consolidation in order to fit the iTunes requirement.  I started down
this laborious editing endeavor prior to the arrival of the DSR1 and
was elated on discovery of the DSR1's elegance in this regard. Though
I sometimes wish that electric piano and harpsichord parts could be
culled for audio output rather than sent to the live instrument.
PowerTracks Pro Audio does simplify the procedure but it is definitely
a hands-on process.

Alas, there seems to be few standards outside of professionally
produced midi music. Track location is but one subjective area.
Velocity is a real problem. US$3 per song for Yamaha disks seems a
pretty fair bargain after one spends a Saturday afternoon deluxing 10
songs that were downloaded for "free".

Thanks again for your information. I'll work on it.
Fred Dismuke
Juliette, Georgia USA

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
<PianoBench@a...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Good evening, everyone.
> 
> Have you tried iTunes? iTunes will play MIDI files on both Windows  
> and Macintosh computers. It has rather extensive cataloging features.
> 
> When iTunes plays a MIDI file, it outputs the MIDI data to QuickTime.  
> On Windows you can use the QT control panel to route the MIDI data to  
> General MIDI (as opposed to the built-in QT tone generator). Then, if  
> you set your system-wide MIDI output default to a MIDI interface  
> connected to your Disklavier, MIDI playback from iTunes will be heard  
> on your Disklavier.
> 
> Here are the exact instructions for setting the system-wide MIDI  
> default on different Windows systems:
> 
> Windows 98
> Start:Settings:Control Panel:Multimedia
> click the Multimedia tab in the Multimedia Properties window
> choose Single Instrument
> under Single Instrument, make your selection for the desired choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Windows ME and Windows 2000
> Start:Settings:Control Panel:Sounds and Multimedia Properties
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Multimedia Properties window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Windows XP
> Start:Control Panel
> (1) if the next window is set to Categories View, click Sounds,  
> Speech, and Audio Devices
> then click Sounds and Audio Devices
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> or
> 
> (2) if the next window is set to Classic View, click Sounds and Audio  
> Devices
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Regrettably, this is not possible on the Mac under OS X although (1)  
> it was possible (by convoluted means) to do so under OS 9 and (2) the  
> OS X documentation says that it is possible.
> 
> NOTE: iTunes can also play PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs on either a Mac  
> or Windows computer if you route your audio cables appropriately to a  
> Mark III or other Disklavier with DCD1 or (in the future) Mark IV. Be  
> sure to turn off the iTunes playback feature called Sound Enhancer.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> On Nov 5, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Fred Dismuke wrote:
> 
> > Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) and
> > upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and have not
> > until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my computer
> > now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings of this
> > user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
> > acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and or
> > course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely thrilled with
> > the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums to the
> > hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and effort
> > culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to about 1500
> > pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but do
> > sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion other than
> > alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside, such
> > as by genre, artist and so on. I have not found in these hallowed
> > archives or on the net, any type of file utility of the style used for
> > mp3 music files in which to classify my repertoire. The mp3 utilities,
> > though designed for music will not recognize the midi file extension.
> > Windows XP has allowed for additional file information in its
> > properties but will not allow for easy entry or searching on this.
> >
> > I am hoping someone may have blundered upon what has so far eluded me.
> > Any recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks again for this cite and the wealth of knowledge that it holds.
> >
> > Fred Dismuke
> > Juliette, Georgia
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It  
> > contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among  
> > many other things, The url is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
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Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-06 by Jorge Fernandez

If your files worked fine with VanVasco then they sould work fine with 
quicktime (iTunes).

Anyway, You can do the same with the courrent free versions of
(at least):
MS Media Player
WinAmp
RealPlayer

Maybe the problem is that since VanBasco was your default MIDI player 
(now is iTunes) the others didn't include midi files (MID) in their 
libary directories.

I have used them for this and it works.

There is a very nice feature in iTunes that it is not included in the 
others:
It can convert, on the fly, from MIDI to WAV or MP3; so you can copy 
your favorite files to standard audio CDs or to portable MP3 player 
devices.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hello,
> Thank you for your very prompt response George. I did download and
> install iTunes and as you wrote, it had a fabulously robust comment
> and search capability. I moved a few MIDIs into it and after a bit of

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-06 by Fred Dismuke

Greetings Jorge,

As you suggested I changed the file association setting to point midi
to iTunes and also tried some other files and no change in midi
performance in iTunes.  

As you mentioned, I did bring up Windows Media Player V.10 and for the
first time noticed the "other media" area in the library list which
allowed for cleanly importing midi. I was able to correctly play what
had previously been flawed in iTunes, and WMP has extensive catalog
notation capability as well.

I had previously given up on WMP. Because of my lack of midi
interfacing experience, I couldn't get it to play to my Yamaha UX16
USB interface. Piano Bench's pointers on the audio system driver
settings cleaned up the Media Player problem and its output sounds
identical to VanBasco and very usable except for the lack of computer
control of velocity. As long as I have consistent levels in my files
the Disklavier controls are adequate and rarely needed.

It may be a quirk in my setup; damage in some of my sequences or midi
file type compatibility issues in iTunes but I am happy with WMP and
am familiar with its use with much of my audio cd collection ripped to it.

Thank you Jorge and George. Y'all have pointed me down the right
"track" on this one. I am not a musician, just a music lover with a
computer background. I hope there is some tidbit of my knowledge that
may help someone in the future as much as yours has helped me.

Fred Dismuke
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Jorge Fernandez" <jorgefedez@g...>
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> If your files worked fine with VanVasco then they sould work fine with 
> quicktime (iTunes).
> 
> Anyway, You can do the same with the courrent free versions of
> (at least):
> MS Media Player
> WinAmp
> RealPlayer
> 
> Maybe the problem is that since VanBasco was your default MIDI player 
> (now is iTunes) the others didn't include midi files (MID) in their 
> libary directories.
> 
> I have used them for this and it works.
> 
> There is a very nice feature in iTunes that it is not included in the 
> others:
> It can convert, on the fly, from MIDI to WAV or MP3; so you can copy 
> your favorite files to standard audio CDs or to portable MP3 player 
> devices.
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Thank you for your very prompt response George. I did download and
> > install iTunes and as you wrote, it had a fabulously robust comment
> > and search capability. I moved a few MIDIs into it and after a bit of
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-06 by George F. Litterst

Good afternoon, everyone.

On Nov 6, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Fred wrote:

> I had previously given up on WMP. Because of my lack of midi
> interfacing experience, I couldn't get it to play to my Yamaha UX16
> USB interface. Piano Bench's pointers on the audio system driver
> settings cleaned up the Media Player problem and its output sounds
> identical to VanBasco and very usable except for the lack of computer
> control of velocity. As long as I have consistent levels in my files
> the Disklavier controls are adequate and rarely needed.

Fred, I am glad that this helped. Further explanation for anyone who  
is interested:

MIDI-aware applications seem to fall into 2 distinct categories:  
those that have their own MIDI setup preferences and those that do  
not. Generally speaking, programs that have MIDI input (for  
recording, for example) have a MIDI setup preference window. Many of  
those that simply output MIDI data do not, and they rely on the  
system-wide preference. A web browser is a good example of the latter.

On both Macintosh and Windows, there are system-wide preferences that  
can be set for MIDI output but not input. So, in setting up your  
particular application, you have to deal with one of these scenarios:

Application MIDI setup preference: choose MIDI input and output devices

System-wide MIDI preference: choose default MIDI output device

Sometimes QuickTime gets into the chain. On the Mac, QT is the system  
wide default for MIDI output. On Windows, QT only comes into play if  
it is installed and the particular application (such as iTunes)  
defaults to it. In these cases, the chain consists of:

QT MIDI output default: (1) either QT Music Instruments (a software- 
based General MIDI synth made by Roland) or (2) the system-wide  
default (designated in the QT control panel as General MIDI).

As I mentioned earlier, on the Mac, the QT control panel used to  
offer General MIDI output as an alternative to QT instruments.  
However, this feature has not been available under OS X despite the  
fact that the OS X documentation says that it is possible. This  
circumstance on the Mac is truly unfortunate because the Mac now has  
MIDI I/O functions built in to the operating system. For those who  
wish to explore the Mac's view of MIDI, go to  
Applications:Utilities:Audio MIDI Setup.

Regards,
PianoBench

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-06 by Fred Dismuke

Thanks for that primer George. There is nothing much that can be done
about hard-coded software but it helps to have the knowledge to
recognize the deficiency and move on to another tool early. WMP suits
my needs for the most part but doesn't alloy for advanced tag editing
of midi. It seems to be geared towards audio and movie files. But with
the capability of partial string searches it is much easier now to
locate a specific file. It will do fine until I see something better.
Many thanks,
Fred Dismuke
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
<PianoBench@a...> wrote:
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>
> Good afternoon, everyone.
> 
> On Nov 6, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Fred wrote:
> 
> > I had previously given up on WMP. Because of my lack of midi
> > interfacing experience, I couldn't get it to play to my Yamaha UX16
> > USB interface. Piano Bench's pointers on the audio system driver
> > settings cleaned up the Media Player problem and its output sounds
> > identical to VanBasco and very usable except for the lack of computer
> > control of velocity. As long as I have consistent levels in my files
> > the Disklavier controls are adequate and rarely needed.
> 
> Fred, I am glad that this helped. Further explanation for anyone who  
> is interested:
> 
> MIDI-aware applications seem to fall into 2 distinct categories:  
> those that have their own MIDI setup preferences and those that do  
> not. Generally speaking, programs that have MIDI input (for  
> recording, for example) have a MIDI setup preference window. Many of  
> those that simply output MIDI data do not, and they rely on the  
> system-wide preference. A web browser is a good example of the latter.
> 
> On both Macintosh and Windows, there are system-wide preferences that  
> can be set for MIDI output but not input. So, in setting up your  
> particular application, you have to deal with one of these scenarios:
> 
> Application MIDI setup preference: choose MIDI input and output devices
> 
> System-wide MIDI preference: choose default MIDI output device
> 
> Sometimes QuickTime gets into the chain. On the Mac, QT is the system  
> wide default for MIDI output. On Windows, QT only comes into play if  
> it is installed and the particular application (such as iTunes)  
> defaults to it. In these cases, the chain consists of:
> 
> QT MIDI output default: (1) either QT Music Instruments (a software- 
> based General MIDI synth made by Roland) or (2) the system-wide  
> default (designated in the QT control panel as General MIDI).
> 
> As I mentioned earlier, on the Mac, the QT control panel used to  
> offer General MIDI output as an alternative to QT instruments.  
> However, this feature has not been available under OS X despite the  
> fact that the OS X documentation says that it is possible. This  
> circumstance on the Mac is truly unfortunate because the Mac now has  
> MIDI I/O functions built in to the operating system. For those who  
> wish to explore the Mac's view of MIDI, go to  
> Applications:Utilities:Audio MIDI Setup.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>

WANTED: DU1A IN THE UK

2005-11-06 by mark.carline

Just wondered if anyone knows of any DU1A uprights for sale in the uk.

Get in touch if you do

Thanks

Mark.carline@...

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-07 by Jorge Fernandez

Nice to see it helped.

I, myself, have a not solved problem with media players; all of 
these only handle the standard "MidiMapper"; 16 channels in one MIDI 
port.

But I have Roland Sound Canvas inside the PC (besides the 
SoundBlaster card).
This way I can have 32 MIDI channels (one for the DKV and 15 for 
orchestral sounds (2 Percussion sets)
This is, from the PC to the DKV via to host serial cable and then 
from the DKV to the Canvas card via MIDI cable, so I let the DKV 
handle his 500 ms latency time.

As far as I know, only the player bundled with CakeWalk can handle 
this setup AND also play lists, but with cakewalk  and WAV files 
only and, of course, no library, MP3, nice visualizations and so on.

So when a set any other player to play from a play list; (mixing 
MIDI, MP3, etc.); I have to use only the 16 MIDI channels of the DKV 
or the internal sound cards.

Is 32 MIDI channels really needed?
Well, of course not, but I make nice effects and more natural sounds 
when dubbing sound form the XG in the DKV with sounds from banks of 
the (vintage) Roland card. 

The bad news are that I do'nt think there will be, in the near 
future, a free WMP that handles more than one MIDI port.

Regards.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
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> Greetings Jorge,
>

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-07 by Fred Dismuke

Hello Everyone,

Jorge, I may have spoken too soon on the Windows Media Player. It has
hiccupped some after more extensive use. Plus, I seem to have screwed
up the WMP audio driver and can't listen to mp3s (or system wave
sounds for that matter) any longer. I've since gone back to VanBasco
(for the time being) and Power Tracks Pro Audio for my editing and
finessing.

My hardware setup is a Pentium PC with the Yamaha UX-16 USB midi
interface. I overcame the 2-meter USB cable limitation for the roughly
25' cabled run to the piano with (2) 16' self-powered amplified USB
cables (which the manufacturer of escapes me) which work great. The
DSR1's Disklavier setting of course delays the ensemble voice the
required 500ms, so all I had to do was delay the karaoke lyrics 500ms
in VanBasco. I did find the ability to monitor the midi voices
graphically in VanBasco so very useful, especially when listening to a
selection that I've downloaded for the first time and then if the file
has merit, saving the it with a useful name direct from VanBasco. I
just have to mentally adjust the half-second delay of the sound after
the graphics.

WMP does see my Yamaha Midi driver as well as the midi mapper as all
my other windows music software, by the way.

Again, I'm crazy about the setup, but I guess it's like everything
else, 10% better is usually %200 or more money or effort. I'll post on
this if I ever figure something out that is consistent. 

Fred

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Jorge Fernandez" <jorgefedez@g...>
wrote:
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>
> Nice to see it helped.
> 
> I, myself, have a not solved problem with media players; all of 
> these only handle the standard "MidiMapper"; 16 channels in one MIDI 
> port.

Re: [disklavier] Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-07 by Ted East

All,

I have successfully use the following USB extender with the Yamaha UX-16. The computer is upstairs and the piano is downstairs with over a hundred 100 of cable between. The setup works great with no problems. I get to use the computer with the disklavier while abiding by the wife's rules about no computer around the piano..

http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GUCE50

-Ted

Fred Dismuke wrote:
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Hello Everyone,

Jorge, I may have spoken too soon on the Windows Media Player. It has
hiccupped some after more extensive use. Plus, I seem to have screwed
up the WMP audio driver and can't listen to mp3s (or system wave
sounds for that matter) any longer. I've since gone back to VanBasco
(for the time being) and Power Tracks Pro Audio for my editing and
finessing.

My hardware setup is a Pentium PC with the Yamaha UX-16 USB midi
interface. I overcame the 2-meter USB cable limitation for the roughly
25' cabled run to the piano with (2) 16' self-powered amplified USB
cables (which the manufacturer of escapes me) which work great. The
DSR1's Disklavier setting of course delays the ensemble voice the
required 500ms, so all I had to do was delay the karaoke lyrics 500ms
in VanBasco. I did find the ability to monitor the midi voices
graphically in VanBasco so very useful, especially when listening to a
selection that I've downloaded for the first time and then if the file
has merit, saving the it with a useful name direct from VanBasco. I
just have to mentally adjust the half-second delay of the sound after
the graphics.

WMP does see my Yamaha Midi driver as well as the midi mapper as all
my other windows music software, by the way.

Again, I'm crazy about the setup, but I guess it's like everything
else, 10% better is usually %200 or more money or effort. I'll post on
this if I ever figure something out that is consistent. 

Fred

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Jorge Fernandez" 
wrote:
  
Nice to see it helped.

I, myself, have a not solved problem with media players; all of 
these only handle the standard "MidiMapper"; 16 channels in one MIDI 
port.
    






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Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-08 by Jorge Fernandez

Sorry to see that.

But, as you point tit out it should be just a matter of setup 
configuration.
I'll contact you in a private mail to check some details.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
wrote:
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>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Jorge, I may have spoken too soon on the Windows Media Player. It has
> hiccupped some after more extensive use. Plus, I seem to have screwed
> up the WMP audio driver and can't listen to mp3s (or system wave
> sounds for that matter) any longer.

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-13 by midi_magic2000

Hi

What you need is the program call MidiCat which can be found at:

http://midicat.net/

I think you will find it will do all that you want and much more.

Midi Magic




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
wrote:
>
> Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) and
> upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and have 
not
> until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my 
computer
> now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings of 
this
> user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
> acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and or
> course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely thrilled 
with
> the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums to 
the
> hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and 
effort
> culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to about 
1500
> pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but do
> sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion other 
than
> alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside, 
such
> as by genre, artist and so on. I have not found in these hallowed
> archives or on the net, any type of file utility of the style used 
for
> mp3 music files in which to classify my repertoire. The mp3 
utilities,
> though designed for music will not recognize the midi file 
extension.
> Windows XP has allowed for additional file information in its
> properties but will not allow for easy entry or searching on this. 
> 
> I am hoping someone may have blundered upon what has so far eluded 
me.
> Any recommendations? 
> 
> Thanks again for this cite and the wealth of knowledge that it 
holds.
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> 
> Fred Dismuke
> Juliette, Georgia
>

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-15 by Fred Dismuke

Evening All

I think you are spot-on Midi Magic! I downloaded the free limited
version and gave it a quick test drive and it is fantastic. A little
more investigation and I'll upgrade to the pay version. VanBasco's
playlists are great for setting up a program of unattended background,
but special requests are often very awkward to locate. 
Many thanks,
Fred
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "midi_magic2000" <magic_midi@h...>
wrote:
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>
> Hi
> 
> What you need is the program call MidiCat which can be found at:
> 
> http://midicat.net/
> 
> I think you will find it will do all that you want and much more.
> 
> Midi Magic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) and
> > upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and have 
> not
> > until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my 
> computer
> > now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings of 
> this
> > user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
> > acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and or
> > course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely thrilled 
> with
> > the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums to 
> the
> > hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and 
> effort
> > culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to about 
> 1500
> > pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but do
> > sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion other 
> than
> > alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside,

Re: Midi File Organization

2005-11-22 by midi_magic2000

Hi Fred

Glad to have helped.

Midi Magic

--- In disklavier@...m, "Fred Dismuke" <freddismuke@b...> 
wrote:
>
> Evening All
> 
> I think you are spot-on Midi Magic! I downloaded the free limited
> version and gave it a quick test drive and it is fantastic. A 
little
> more investigation and I'll upgrade to the pay version. VanBasco's
> playlists are great for setting up a program of unattended 
background,
> but special requests are often very awkward to locate. 
> Many thanks,
> Fred
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "midi_magic2000" 
<magic_midi@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > 
> > What you need is the program call MidiCat which can be found at:
> > 
> > http://midicat.net/
> > 
> > I think you will find it will do all that you want and much more.
> > 
> > Midi Magic
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Dismuke" 
<freddismuke@b...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Over the past summer I purchased an MX-80 (a 15 year ambition) 
and
> > > upgraded to XG with a DSR1. Very early on I joined D.U.G. and 
have 
> > not
> > > until now corresponded. My Disklavier is interfaced with my 
> > computer
> > > now thanks in large part to research of the archive postings 
of 
> > this
> > > user's group, and now that I've waited out the shipping,
> > > acclimatizing, cabling, software selection/learning curve and 
or
> > > course, the tuner appointment, I must say I'm absolutely 
thrilled 
> > with
> > > the arrangement. I have moved my 20 store-bought Yamaha albums 
to 
> > the
> > > hard drive for ease of playing and have also, at much time and 
> > effort
> > > culled thousands of not-so-hot midi files from the web to 
about 
> > 1500
> > > pretty good arrangements. I have many Vanbasco play lists but 
do
> > > sometimes want to find a particular selection by criterion 
other 
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> > than
> > > alphabetic, and my memory of which sub-directory it may reside,
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.