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rattles

2007-06-10 by Carol Beigel

It is hard to follow threads when posts from AOL clients are often delayed for 24 hours or more. But to address the rattles and noises, they are usually associated with loose screws unless some little person decided to toss a marble or coin into one of the plate holes. On a new grand piano, make sure the legs are bolted on tight. If the leg bolts are not tight, the washers rattle.
Most often the offending screw is in the lid hinge. Carefully snug the screws in the hinge. Don't try to tighten them tight because they strip easily. Loose screws on the big hinges that hold the lid onto the side of the piano can also be a culprit. There are also screws that hold the "cups" where the lid prop goes and screws in the music desk.
Some of the more esoteric things that have caused rattles and buzzes are: the electric cord on the climate control system is wrapped over a beam and touching a soundboard rib; the filament in the light bulb or bulbs in the piano lamp or ceiling fixtures near the piano; the glass in the picture frames sitting on the piano lid or shelf nearby; the treasures in the curio cabinet sitting nearby, and ANY piece of paper or cardboard, including the new piano tag, that is sitting inside the piano.
My favorite piano noise story was the pedals hissing on a new piano. New house in new neighborhood and new piano. Local woodsy habitat destroyed to make room for new lawns. Displaced large snake had taken up residence in the new upright and took umbrage at the pedal levers moving! Solution was to call animal control people and remove that neighborhood from my customer database!!
Carol Beigel
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Re:rattles

2007-06-16 by wandamusic@aol.com

<<It is hard to follow threads when posts from AOL clients are often  delayed 
for 24 hours or more. But to address the rattles and noises, they are  
usually associated with loose screws unless some little person decided to toss a  
marble or coin into one of the plate holes. >>
 
Carol,
 
Thanks for the info on rattles (and the delightful hissing story!). For my  
1st free tuning, the tuner did tighten lid hinges, but later,  the exact same 
buzz was still there on the A above middle C. The buzz is  intermittent. Last 
week I laid a software box on the piano top (a DU1A) and  later sat down to 
play and the buzz was worse than ever. I removed the box and  it was not as bad, 
so that seems to say the lid has something to do with it.  BTW, nothing else 
at all is in that part of room - on wall or near piano and it  is clear sound 
is coming from within the piano. Floors are newly carpeted, no  furniture or 
paintings, etc within maybe 8 feet or more.
 
Using your advice, and the other recent owner of a DU1A - Jared's - I  
checked the screws around the front part that comes off when they tune it - and  
tigntened just the tiniest bit those larger screws on the side.
 
But what I noticed was the part you put the music on - I think that would  be 
called the desk? - has hinges with screws in pairs with 3 pairs on each hinge 
 - had several stripped screws, and I had never touched them before - plus I 
do  not believe the tuner touched them, as I was there when he was doing the 
lid  screws.
 
I only noticed this, as I tightened 2 out of the 3 on the left, and each  
time I put screw driver in middle one, I could not get a grip to turn. So I  
brought a flashlight and had it at an angle to see the screw's hole was  stripped. 
There was another one the same way, one that I had not yet  touched.
 
My concern is that they will try to say I did this, but the only reason I  
was even checking this out was that the tuner they sent said to buy a small  
screw driver and make sure they were tight if there was more buzzing. I assume I  
can obtain more screws so this will not become a problem in the future?
 
My thoughts are that once I have time to play every day, in July, I will  
remove the front and see if I ever get a buzz with it off. If not that will seem  
to say it is probably some part of the front. And if I get it then I will  
know it is coming from somewhere inside the piano of the lid.
 
One more thing - when delivered, the piano did not have this buzz for about  
3 weeks. I barely play due to schedule, but each time I played - no buzz. The  
buzz started immediately after it was pulled out about 8" to plug the speaker 
in  BEHIND the piano as they had delivered and put it too close to the wall. 
Is  there any chance that the little roller casters of the piano could be in 
any way  involved? The sound does not sound like it is coming from there, but I 
just am  curious as to why it did not buzz for weeks and now always buzzes 
more than half  the time - seldom a day goes by with no buzz....  

(And the tuner did carefully check all the wires behind the piano that none  
were touching the soundboard, etc)
 
Blessings,  
Wanda




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