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Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier

2008-12-10 by Ken Gorman

While shopping for my Disklavier, I recall the salesman touting a feature where the Disklavier could play the exact notes a performer was playing while the performer was playing them.  The salesman encouraged us to imagine that we were sitting at home while our piano was playing the exact notes Elton John was playing while on stage somewhere.


I found some videos on YouTube suggesting that this is indeed possible - the videos I found highlighted the "remote lesson" capabilities of the Disklavier, i.e.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9X_P9Ft4qo

Has Elton John (or any other famous performer for that matter) held a live concert where their playing was reproduced on a piano at the time they were playing it?  If so, does anyone have any videos or web-links with additional information?

Thanks,

Ken

Re: [disklavier] Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier

2008-12-11 by Phil Blah

Hello Ken,

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, there is that "Red Piano" that yamaha flog the Disklavier, it has recordings of Elton John, I doubt they will be for sale anytime soon because its all 'precious'... perhaps someone can copy the midis off it ;-)

I am generally annoyed at the lack of anything good on the Yamaha store, as nothing there is original and most recordings are boring and clinical with no 'feeling'. It would be good to have a proper tony Bennett or Diana Krall CD that had the real songs but the only piano playing was your own...and it was the 'actual artist'. I hate when you get cd's of 'original artists' and they just have your piano trying to play over the top of the original... pretty lame.

I wish yamaha would replace most of there pianos with disklaviers so they can get live recordings like at the Sydney Opera house, I saw Burt Baccarat live but nope, no proper recordings done :( he is one of the last legends and when he retires we will never have a REAL recording.

Philip






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Subject: [disklavier] Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier


While shopping for my Disklavier, I recall the salesman touting a feature where the Disklavier could play the exact notes a performer was playing while the performer was playing them.  The salesman encouraged us to imagine that we were sitting at home while our piano was playing the exact notes Elton John was playing while on stage somewhere.


I found some videos on YouTube suggesting that this is indeed  possible - the videos I found highlighted the "remote lesson" capabilities of the Disklavier, i.e.

    http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=M9X_P9Ft4qo

Has Elton John (or any other famous performer for that matter) held a live concert where their playing was reproduced on a piano at the time they were playing it?  If so, does anyone have any videos  or web-links with additional information?

Thanks,

Ken




    


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Re: [disklavier] Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier

2008-12-15 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.


On Dec 10, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Ken wrote:

>
> While shopping for my Disklavier, I recall the salesman touting a  
> feature where the Disklavier could play the exact notes a performer  
> was playing while the performer was playing them.  The salesman  
> encouraged us to imagine that we were sitting at home while our  
> piano was playing the exact notes Elton John was playing while on  
> stage somewhere.
>
> I found some videos on YouTube suggesting that this is indeed  
> possible - the videos I found highlighted the "remote lesson"  
> capabilities of the Disklavier, i.e.
>
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9X_P9Ft4qo
>
> Has Elton John (or any other famous performer for that matter) held  
> a live concert where their playing was reproduced on a piano at the  
> time they were playing it?  If so, does anyone have any videos or  
> web-links with additional information?

Ken, I am the person who presented the Disklavier Remote Lesson  
demonstration in the YouTube video. What I can tell you is this:

Yamaha has been demonstrating an experimental Mark IV feature called  
"Remote Lesson" during the last 2 years. During that time, a select  
group of piano teachers around the country has been using the feature  
to give long distance lessons. In addition, the feature has been used  
to broadcast a couple of long distance concert performances.

Remote Lesson is capable of connecting any number of Disklaviers  
together in real time. When you play on one piano, you are  
simultaneously playing on the other pianos as well.

Remote Lesson can be conveniently used in conjunction with a video  
conferencing program, like iChat, Skype, ooVoo, and others. In these  
cases you have both a Disklavier-to-Disklavier connection and a  
computer-to-computer connection. In order to synchronize the playback  
of the piano with the video, Remote Lesson provides controls for  
adjusting the delay (i.e. buffering) at the receiving end.

I have successfully taught a number of piano lessons using this  
feature, and I have observed some of my students being taught by other  
teachers around the country. On one occasion, a student of mine took  
individual lessons on a particular piece by Debussy with 5 teachers  
scattered about the country: New York, Texas, Colorado, California,  
and Minnesota. Shortly before her recital, we arranged a run-through  
with four of the five teachers. In doing so, we had 5 pianos connected  
at one time. The four teachers were able to see her as she played  
their local pianos.

On another occasion, I facilitated 3 evenings of long distance  
performances from New York to Chicago. The Hotel Sax in Chicago wanted  
to have a spectacular opening. Jazz pianist Jon Davis performed on  
successive nights, playing on a Disklavier in the lobby of the Carlton  
Hotel in New York. Using Skype, we broadcast his video to the Hotel  
Sax. At the Hotel Sax, a bass player joined in and accompanied the  
pianist.

NOTE: Remote Lesson is not a program that can be used to facilitate  
long distance duets in the traditional sense. There is a delay in the  
data going from point A to point B. A second musician can play along  
with the incoming data at point B, but if the musician at point A  
tries to listen to the musician at point B, what he hears will be late.

On another occasion, Edisher Savitsky--winner of the 3rd Minnesota  
International Piano-e-Competition--gave a press conference in New York  
from his home in Indiana. Using video conferencing and Remote Lesson,  
he was able to talk about his upcoming Carnegie Hall debut and to  
perform excerpts from his concert.

At this point, we do not know if Remote Lesson will be released as a  
generally accessible feature of the Mark IV.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com

Re: Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier

2008-12-15 by jheitzeb1

The idea of a remote piano lesson is a good one.  My husband has
always wanted to play the piano and this would be a great way for him
to do it from home.  Thanks for info on this application and hope they
do apply it to the Mark IV. 

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
<PianoBench@...> wrote:
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>
> Good morning, everyone.
> 
> 
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Ken wrote:
> 
> >
> > While shopping for my Disklavier, I recall the salesman touting a  
> > feature where the Disklavier could play the exact notes a performer  
> > was playing while the performer was playing them.  The salesman  
> > encouraged us to imagine that we were sitting at home while our  
> > piano was playing the exact notes Elton John was playing while on  
> > stage somewhere.
> >
> > I found some videos on YouTube suggesting that this is indeed  
> > possible - the videos I found highlighted the "remote lesson"  
> > capabilities of the Disklavier, i.e.
> >
> >     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9X_P9Ft4qo
> >
> > Has Elton John (or any other famous performer for that matter) held  
> > a live concert where their playing was reproduced on a piano at the  
> > time they were playing it?  If so, does anyone have any videos or  
> > web-links with additional information?
> 
> Ken, I am the person who presented the Disklavier Remote Lesson  
> demonstration in the YouTube video. What I can tell you is this:
> 
> Yamaha has been demonstrating an experimental Mark IV feature called  
> "Remote Lesson" during the last 2 years. During that time, a select  
> group of piano teachers around the country has been using the feature  
> to give long distance lessons. In addition, the feature has been used  
> to broadcast a couple of long distance concert performances.
> 
> Remote Lesson is capable of connecting any number of Disklaviers  
> together in real time. When you play on one piano, you are  
> simultaneously playing on the other pianos as well.
> 
> Remote Lesson can be conveniently used in conjunction with a video  
> conferencing program, like iChat, Skype, ooVoo, and others. In these  
> cases you have both a Disklavier-to-Disklavier connection and a  
> computer-to-computer connection. In order to synchronize the playback  
> of the piano with the video, Remote Lesson provides controls for  
> adjusting the delay (i.e. buffering) at the receiving end.
> 
> I have successfully taught a number of piano lessons using this  
> feature, and I have observed some of my students being taught by other  
> teachers around the country. On one occasion, a student of mine took  
> individual lessons on a particular piece by Debussy with 5 teachers  
> scattered about the country: New York, Texas, Colorado, California,  
> and Minnesota. Shortly before her recital, we arranged a run-through  
> with four of the five teachers. In doing so, we had 5 pianos connected  
> at one time. The four teachers were able to see her as she played  
> their local pianos.
> 
> On another occasion, I facilitated 3 evenings of long distance  
> performances from New York to Chicago. The Hotel Sax in Chicago wanted  
> to have a spectacular opening. Jazz pianist Jon Davis performed on  
> successive nights, playing on a Disklavier in the lobby of the Carlton  
> Hotel in New York. Using Skype, we broadcast his video to the Hotel  
> Sax. At the Hotel Sax, a bass player joined in and accompanied the  
> pianist.
> 
> NOTE: Remote Lesson is not a program that can be used to facilitate  
> long distance duets in the traditional sense. There is a delay in the  
> data going from point A to point B. A second musician can play along  
> with the incoming data at point B, but if the musician at point A  
> tries to listen to the musician at point B, what he hears will be late.
> 
> On another occasion, Edisher Savitsky--winner of the 3rd Minnesota  
> International Piano-e-Competition--gave a press conference in New York  
> from his home in Indiana. Using video conferencing and Remote Lesson,  
> he was able to talk about his upcoming Carnegie Hall debut and to  
> perform excerpts from his concert.
> 
> At this point, we do not know if Remote Lesson will be released as a  
> generally accessible feature of the Mark IV.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> www.georgelitterst.com
> www.timewarptech.com
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Fw: Live Concerts via Disklavier

2008-12-15 by George F. Litterst

Good afternoon, everyone.

On Dec 15, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Joan wrote:

> The idea of a remote piano lesson is a good one. My husband has
> always wanted to play the piano and this would be a great way for him
> to do it from home. Thanks for info on this application and hope they
> do apply it to the Mark IV.
>

Teaching piano over the Internet has become a major topic at music  
educator conferences. There is a lot of interest. Music Teachers  
National Association (MTNA), for example, is devoting an entire day to  
it at the national conference in March.

I personally know some teachers who are teaching long distance just  
using video conferencing. The problem with that is that the sound of  
the instrument is compressed to speech levels by the video  
conferencing software.

My little company, TimeWarp Technologies, is getting close to  
releasing Internet MIDI for both Macintosh and PC computers. It  
enables you to connect 2 MIDI instruments over the Internet, such as  
Mark IV and non-Mark IV Disklaviers, digital pianos, portable  
keyboards, and the like. One of our testers is about to start teaching  
students in California (where she used to live) from her new home in  
Montana. Last week, I listened to her student recital (which took  
place in CA) in my home in Massachusetts using may DC6 Pro.

Another teacher in Minnesota is teaching a young child in Zambia.

I'll let my comments conclude at this point lest my email turn into an  
advertisement.

If you would like more information about Internet MIDI, please do not  
reply to this email. Instead, contact me at my personal email address:

PianoBench@...

Regards,
PianoBench


www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com

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