Disklavier

Has anyone tried using the Piano Disc streaming radio channel with a Disklavier?  I downloaded Winamp for PC and get the channel and I get the faxlike screaching.  What is the output format from the streaming channel?  

I have a MKII Pro. with DCD1 and memor upgrade.

I tried to take the audio output from my PC speakers and put it to the MIDI In and Aux In ports of my DCD1.  My Laptop "Fell" ill so I am working from my Desktop now.  The PC is too far away to use the UX16.

On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 23:59 +0000, tbill84701 wrote:

> Has anyone tried using the Piano Disc streaming radio channel with a
> Disklavier?  I downloaded Winamp for PC and get the channel and I get
> the faxlike screaching.  What is the output format from the streaming
> channel?
> I have a MKII Pro. with DCD1 and memory upgrade.

In theory, you should be able to feed the left/right audio output from
your PC of that "screeching" into the "ANALOG MIDI IN" RCA jacks on the
back of the DCD1 and have the DCD1 decode it into a MIDI stream to drive
the MKII.  Some experimentation with the volume level out of the PC
might be necessary, and you'd need to disable any special audio features
of your PC sound hardware (bass boost, surround sound, reverb etc.)

However, there's a good chance this actually won't work since PianoDisc
changed their streaming format slightly after the DCD1 was released, and
I don't think Yamaha ever issued a firmware update to make the DCD1
compatible with the change.

Mark Fontana

Hey Guys,

Yeah I tried this stream with my mark4, it sorta works, but has lots of bad notes constantly playing at random... so the 'piano disk' must have a slightly different format.

You can try it for fun, just use a program like streamripper http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/ , load up the URL http://pianodisc.streamguys.tv/listen.pls and save as .mp3, then use a program like goldwave to save as a .wav file, copy this to the pianos HD or chuck on a USB disk what ever, and play... I left it streaming for a bit under an hour and had lots of 'potiential' songs, but they are all too screwy :(

Does anyway know of a way to convert PianoDisk 'audio' to midi? that would be cool.

Although, there is nothing interesting there, just boring old classicical 'standards' music.

Cheers,
Philip




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From: Mark Fontana <mfontana@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 7 May, 2010 10:24:28 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Piano Disc streaming radio

  


On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 23:59 +0000, tbill84701 wrote:

> Has anyone tried using the Piano Disc streaming radio channel with a
> Disklavier? I downloaded Winamp for PC and get the channel and I get
> the faxlike screaching. What is the output format from the streaming
> channel?
> I have a MKII Pro. with DCD1 and memory upgrade.

In theory, you should be able to feed the left/right audio output from
your PC of that "screeching" into the "ANALOG MIDI IN" RCA jacks on the
back of the DCD1 and have the DCD1 decode it into a MIDI stream to drive
the MKII. Some experimentation with the volume level out of the PC
might be necessary, and you'd need to disable any special audio features
of your PC sound hardware (bass boost, surround sound, reverb etc.)

However, there's a good chance this actually won't work since PianoDisc
changed their streaming format slightly after the DCD1 was released, and
I don't think Yamaha ever issued a firmware update to make the DCD1
compatible with the change.

Mark Fontana


Hey

On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 22:16 -0700, Phil Blah wrote:

> Yeah I tried this stream with my mark4, it sorta works, but has lots
> of bad notes constantly playing at random... so the 'piano disk' must
> have a slightly different format.

If you are hearing long, held notes on top of music that otherwise
sounds OK, this is PianoDisc's deliberate attempt to make their music
unplayable on competitors' systems, introduced in 2005, known as "Silent
Drive Plus".

If you can barely recognize the song, it's probably the effect of the
minor format change I mentioned in a previous posting.

Mark Fontana

Some songs are more hearable than others.. long holding top and base notes, with scattery random notes... so its totally spoiled.

They might of introduced some sort of error correction and things to stop glitches, although it's pretty silly in my view sending nothing more than midi data via audio, the song should be 13k but is 3meg!

If they were streaming better music with singing/drums etc audio with the midi data then it would be REALLY cool, infact I suppose by using this format there is nothing stopping them! could open lots of windows..hmm.

Mark, if you get a normal 'PianoDisk' right now, do you have the same problem if you play it on a Yamaha system? Are there tools to covert?

Cheers,
Philip




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From: Mark Fontana <mfontana@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 8 May, 2010 3:40:42 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Piano Disc streaming radio

  

On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 22:16 -0700, Phil Blah wrote:

> Yeah I tried this stream with my mark4, it sorta works, but has lots
> of bad notes constantly playing at random... so the 'piano disk' must
> have a slightly different format.

If you are hearing long, held notes on top of music that otherwise
sounds OK, this is PianoDisc's deliberate attempt to make their music
unplayable on competitors' systems, introduced in 2005, known as "Silent
Drive Plus".

If you can barely recognize the song, it's probably the effect of the
minor format change I mentioned in a previous posting.

Mark Fontana